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Not that it's much help but in case you missed it, the sign in the background says "Trajan to Hadrian". Here's a link to photos of the statue:
http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/lorica/musculata2.htm
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Well, thats rather embarrassing. :oops: After all the time I've spent looking at that picture I never noticed that.
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Whoever it is, Trajan or Hadrian... I think he needs to iron those Pteruges! :wink:
BTW: I dont' think that's a long sleeve tunica, he might have the cloak wrapped around his left arm... I could be wrong though.
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Quote:Whoever it is, Trajan or Hadrian... I think he needs to iron those Pteruges! :wink:
BTW: I dont' think that's a long sleeve tunica, he might have the cloak wrapped around his left arm... I could be wrong though.
I would agree that it's the cloak wrapped around the arm. No long sleeves.
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Speaking of which, can anyone help make some identifying comments about the statue on the left?
It's from the book "The Roman Nude" by Christopher H. Hallett (
link), and while it makes many positive mentions of the below statue, it fails to make the statue's identity known!
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i agree, i saw several of these statues in Rome and most of them looked the same, only the head was different.
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Well this can't be Trajanic, it says 1st century BC. It may look similar because it combines the heroic body with idealized characteristics of a real person's face. I was curious to find out who that person might be. Statue was found at Formia, and now resides at Antiquarium de Formia.
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Quote:Speaking of which, can anyone help make some identifying comments about the statue on the left?
It's from the book "The Roman Nude" by Christopher H. Hallett (link), and while it makes many positive mentions of the below statue, it fails to make the statue's identity known!
Do you own the book? A reviewer mentions: "The 326 nude male portrait sculptures listed in Appendix B (312-331) attest to the remarkable popularity of this genre of representation for both imperial and private subjects". So the answer may lie in appendix B. Not very useful if you don't own the book however.
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I do have access to the book. I hadn't noticed the comment about the Appendix, so maybe it's worth a look.
On another subject, I wonder what people think about the statue. I personally think it's great, more preferrable than Greek impersonal statues like the Doryphoros, which do not seem to have anything much to say to the viewer.
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But, what does the nude statue have to do with Roman MILITARY History and Archaeology. It might be better to start a new thread rather than redirect this one. Maybe in Roman Civilian Talk?
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Back to the original statue... I'm actually in Rome and just saw it today! The museum reference was decided unhelpful, noting only: "Imperatore (?) in abito militare, Della collezione Cayro di S. Giovani Incarico, 80-117 d.C." Meaning that it could be any one of the Flavian emperors, or Nerva or Trajan...which doesn't really narrow it down much!
