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Battle of Cunaxa Illustration
Quote:by the way, there is a very interesting achaemenid seal (shown in Forgotten Empire and also cited in Duncan Head's book) that shows a figth between a persian and a greek

Is there a context to the seal that makes you sure it a greek the persian faces?
Paul M. Bardunias
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Quote:by the way, there is a very interesting achaemenid seal (shown in Forgotten Empire and also cited in Duncan Head's book) that shows a figth between a persian and a greek

Is there a context to the seal that makes you sure it a greek the persian faces?

Of course, we can't be sure that he is ethnicaly a greek, but he seems to wear greek fashion (crested attic? helmet, pteryges, and overall, the big aspis, also shown in other seals depictig greeks.)

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"paraita karam hamiçiyam haya mana naiy gaubataiy avam jata"
"Go forth and crush that rebellious army, wich does not call itself mine!" King Darius at Behistun

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Inyigo wrote:-
Quote:Of course, we can't be sure that he is ethnicaly a greek, but he seems to wear greek fashion (crested attic? helmet, pteryges, and overall, the big aspis, also shown in other seals depictig greeks.)
...So could possibly, or perhaps probably, be a Carian or Lycian or other Anatolian then?
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Quote:...So could possibly, or perhaps probably, be a Carian or Lycian or other Anatolian then?

Sure, it can be one of the greek-fashioned anatolians(Herodotus reminds us well the lybians in greek armour). With "greek" I meant the hoplite style panoply.

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"paraita karam hamiçiyam haya mana naiy gaubataiy avam jata"
"Go forth and crush that rebellious army, wich does not call itself mine!" King Darius at Behistun

Vishtaspa/Inyigo
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gie\\n[quote]ank for your post in Battle of Cunaxa Illustration Thread.
Can you give me more details about “Oruzie Drevnego Vostokaâ€
Ruben

He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
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Quote:Of course, we can't be sure that he is ethnicaly a greek, but he seems to wear greek fashion (crested attic? helmet, pteryges, and overall, the big aspis, also shown in other seals depictig greeks.)

Now that's a topic for a whole new discussion :lol:
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Quote: Fig. 2 is a late Persian cavalryman is based off of several sources. His helmet is based on an example found in Thebes in Egypt, the gorget is based on the Derveni gorget, and the cuirass itself is just hypothetical, as is the fact that he shows one arm covered with cheir and the other with scale-covered pteruges. Gorelik illustrates the exact same hypothetical reconstruction of body armour (gorget, cuirass, and cheir) in "Oruzie Drevnego Vostoka" and states that it is based on Xenophon's descriptions, but gives no reason for reconstructing only one cheir-covered arm.
Is this the reconstruction you are talking about?
If not does anyone knows where it is from?

[Image: achaemenidhorsemanzd5.th.jpg]
Andrei Sandu
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Quote:Is this the reconstruction you are talking about?
If not does anyone knows where it is from?

No, that's not it, but the cavalryman is wearing exactly the same configuration of armour as was reconstructed by Gorelik, so this is almost certainly an illustration from another Gorelik title or a copy of his work.
Ruben

He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
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