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new Brooch found in Vindolanda!
#1
Any one seen this? Perhaps a nice addition to an impression!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 990240.stm
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#2
Nice, it looks in great condition, a bit of a coincidence, as i'm going to Vindolanda tomorrow!
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#3
Hi,

Byron- I agree- a lovely brooch. (PS- has the book arrived?)

More here on the brooch , including Mike Bishop's very useful comments
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... nda+brooch

Dave- it would be great to get an update from Vindolanda- any other new discoveries?

Cheers

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#4
Hi, i'll let you know if I see anything new finds wise while i'm there, we'll be leaving in a few mins Smile
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#5
But where was it worn? What was its function?

I'm reminded of a chatelaine from a later period, but this appears to be decorative, not for hanging sewing tools, etc., from. Looking forward to your report, Mr. Bell.
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#6
Don't know if book has arrived yet Caballo, I'm still approximately 100miles east of Aberdeen, so won't know until the 24th, weather permitting! Big Grin wink:

Thanks for theinfo too, will peruse it this evening when offshift!

Enjoy Vindolanda Dave! I take it your back from Caledonia?

Darned just read the link, so making a copy wouldn't be much use I guess, but it might be a better use for the gold I was going to use for my ring! :?
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#7
Just got back from Vindolanda a few mins ago, it was excellent. I saw the brooch up close, and the photo hardly does it justice! It's a great piece, and I had a great day, there are some wonderful things in Vindolanda, I saw a horsehair crest that was perfectly preserved, it's believed to be the only one of it's kind in the world Confusedhock:

We were also lucky enough to arrive at the Roman Army Museum just as there was being a talk by some re-enacters, which was very good, and we had a great walk along walltown crags Big Grin

PS. We got back from the misty highlands last week Byron, I had a great time Big Grin
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#8
I think the crest is made of some kind of marsh grass, dave! but is only one, true! Smile
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#9
Intresting, I was just presuming that it was horsehair, as it didn't specify on the info boards, (unless I just wasn't being attentive :roll: ) incredible nontheless! I wonder why marsh grass though, horsehair would be much easier to get hold of, anyway, sorry for hijacking your thread Byron!
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#10
:lol: :lol: Well, if this was a face to face conversation, I wouldn't see it as hijacking a conversation, so, to me this is another form of conversing on a subject.....sometimes things wander! (or haven't you paid any attention to any of my posts.......) :lol:

I was ondering the same thing to Dave, but it mentions it in the museum somewhere, I believe, and I was lucky to have Brian Stobbs as my tour guide when Iwas there, so he probably mentioned it as well!

Kind of weedy looking tho' isn't it? :lol: Still, possibly there were more strands like that to make up a full crest!
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#11
:lol: Fair enough, it isn't hijacking Big Grin D

Another thing I found particuly intresting was the arrowheads, some of them were remarkably similar to some medieval bodkins that I own, others were completely differant, but alot had quite a likeness to those used in the middle ages (you can tell i've been making arrows lately can't you :lol: )
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#12
Dave and Byron: here you can read more about the hair moss crest: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... =hair+moss

It has been discussed on several occasions in the past in other threads too.

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Thanks Jef Smile
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#14
The broach is interesting, in that it shows that there were a variety of decorations given out, aside from torques and phalerae, a fact I was unaware of utill i saw the one in the link from the post on the new statue of hadrian......

I had read medals mentioned, but only thoughti t was refering to the above mentioned types. Its nice to learn something now and then, which is nice instead of hard to take! :lol:
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#15
Ave Byron,

That is an awesome looking brooch! Thanks for posting.

Concerning the shape of the two shields, I’ve seen that style described as the “Praetorian shieldâ€
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