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websites ect for buying bone?
#31
Thanks Wes but the origonal is in bone and if I can pull it off you will see why it needed bone. But thaks again Wes for your kind offer Big Grin D
Regards Brennivs Big Grin
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#32
Quote:Thanks Wes but the origonal is in bone and if I can pull it off you will see why it needed bone. But thaks again Wes for your kind offer Big Grin D
Regards Brennivs Big Grin

I'm looking forward to see the result Big Grin
Jef Pinceel
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#33
Salve Brennius,

There is one part of the cow, the thick legbone just above the hoof, that is very dense and most suited to turn into grips as it has the right length and a small inner cavity. I got two of my local butcher for free and just buried them in a shallow grave (and dropped a tile on it to keep the cats and foxes out). The local bugs do the job just fine, it rots really clean in a few months (depends on the temperature).
There was a thread somewhere with a picture, but if you explain the above to any butcher, he will know just what you mean. Mine did Big Grin
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#34
Thanks Robert I have a butcher in mind so I will raid his supply when I am of work next Big Grin
Regards Brennivs Big Grin
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                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
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#35
Quote:Thanks Brennivs, I have heard of it referred to as the Ancient world's 'plastic'- especially horn (which even looks and feel almost 'plastic' when shaped).
I've seen many medieval bone buttons and needles (and of course horn nocks ) but not much else. I haven't yet seen any Roman artifacts made of bone (although I do walk around with my eyes shut most of the time :oops: )
Walking around the BM yesterday with Celer and Caballo we saw apron terminals made of bone, and a complete gladius hilt assembly made of one piece of bone. There have been other bone hilt assemblies found.
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#36
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Memmia:1opynjcl Wrote:Thanks Brennivs, I have heard of it referred to as the Ancient world's 'plastic'- especially horn (which even looks and feel almost 'plastic' when shaped).
I've seen many medieval bone buttons and needles (and of course horn nocks ) but not much else. I haven't yet seen any Roman artifacts made of bone (although I do walk around with my eyes shut most of the time :oops: )
Walking around the BM yesterday with Celer and Caballo we saw apron terminals made of bone, and a complete gladius hilt assembly made of one piece of bone. There have been other bone hilt assemblies found.

Cheers Tarbicus,

I must have seen some of these items before. Was bone used for military items throughout Roman times or was it 'fashionable' during a particular time ?
Memmia AKA Joanne Wenlock.
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#37
Quote:I must have seen some of these items before. Was bone used for military items throughout Roman times or was it 'fashionable' during a particular time ?
They were in the newly re-opened Room 49 (Roman Britain), which has been closed for aaaages. The apron terminals seem to have come from normal aprons (IIRC dated 50-100 AD). Bone hilts and pommels were found in Britain and Europe (You need to copy and paste the first three image links).
http://www.romancoins.info/London%20(3 ).JPG (London - the one-piece I mentioned)
http://www.romancoins.info/d-2005%20(6 ).JPG
http://www.romancoins.info/d-2005%20(5 ).JPG
(Aalen Museum)
http://www.romancoins.info/MilitaryEqui ... ttack.html
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#38
Quote:http://www.romancoins.info/d-2005%20(6).JPG
http://www.romancoins.info/d-2005%20(5 ).JPG
(Aalen Museum

If you look at the plaque you can see that not they are not all bone but that ivory was also used.
Jef Pinceel
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Marcvs Mvmmivs Falco

LEG XI CPF vzw
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#39
Quote:If you look at the plaque you can see that not they are not all bone but that ivory was also used.
Thanks Jef. I was under the impression that 1st C was mainly bone, and ivory was generally used later (spathae). Are you sure it doesn't mean 'made of ivory or bone'. There often seems a degree of uncertainty, with some museums not even sure if parts were bone or wood.

Another British found bone/ivory set in Maltom Museum.
http://www.maltonmuseum.co.uk/images/la ... dTools.jpg

This seems to be a common shape as well:
http://www.exploratio.org/image_databas ... GP3341.jpg
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#40
Hi Jim,

The plaque says 'bone and ivory'. But of course this could mean that some handle's were made out of pieces in the two materials or thet some were all bone and some all ivory. It's indeed often difficult to know without close examination.
Jef Pinceel
a.k.a.
Marcvs Mvmmivs Falco

LEG XI CPF vzw
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www.LEGIOXI.be
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#41
Thanks for the info guys, laudes Smile
Memmia AKA Joanne Wenlock.
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#42
This what I thought when I looked at some of the drawen reconstructions, so what I have in mind will need to be made from pieces.
Regards Brennivs Big Grin D D
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                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
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#43
Quote:Just out of curiosity, what do you make from these bones ?

Belt buckles as well:

[Image: Guertelschnalle.jpg]

... the very first thing I made for myself when I started this Roman madness back in '95 :-) )
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#44
Wow - and a fantastic piece of work that is Martin.
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#45
I agree excellent work Martin Big Grin
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Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
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