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I've made'em myself.
AFAK there were found in Dura Europos 2 (or more) sets of rawhide lamellar upper leg protections.
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Eeerh, The cuisse protections from Dura are, technically speaking, scale, not lamellar. Simon James explains it very convincingly on his Dura Final Report: Arms and Armour. (My copy being currently under an enormous pile of other books after pile-stocking the results of a shelf collapse several months ago... :roll: )
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OK. Any image of it?
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nice,
whats the weight of it?
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Haven't check it yet, but it's very light, like a summer jacket.
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Bravooooo!!!! Weepee!, that is Cool!
Smart proyect! :wink:
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Thanks Gioi!!! I had to recycle myself though...
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Quote:Eeerh, The cuisse protections from Dura are, technically speaking, scale, not lamellar. Simon James explains it very convincingly on his Dura Final Report: Arms and Armour. (My copy being currently under an enormous pile of other books after pile-stocking the results of a shelf collapse several months ago... :roll: )
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If you look at James' description of the cuisses (p.123) then it does seem to be true lamellar. He seems to think that just because the plates overlap downwards instead of upwards then it isn't lamellar. It looks a lot like some of the Chinese lamellar I've seen. In any case, just because some leather lamellar leg protection has been found doesn't automatically mean that leather lamellar body armour was also worn. IIRC no leather body armour was found at Dura Europos.
Here is the first part of James definition of lamellar: "Lamellar differs from scale in structure in that the small plates of which it consists are not dependent on attachment to a cloth backing, but are attached directly to each other." He should have stopped here. The direction of overlap is irrelevant as is whether the lacing is on the inside or outside.
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Quote:In any case, just because some leather lamellar leg protection has been found doesn't automatically mean that leather lamellar body armour was also worn. IIRC no leather body armour was found at Dura Europos.
For me it does! There are other accepted items in reconstruction that even have less (or none hock: ) archaeological evidence for that period, for example, attic helmets, muscle cuirasses, subarmalia... etc. (which I'm not against of :roll: )
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Here, one photo with Faventianus inside:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/ ... G_9125.jpg
Bravo, Faventianus, Very good work!
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Great picture - finally we get a good look..
Why is this thread in the marketplace section again?
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Looks cool!
And best wishes for your disc
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Yep. Very cool. What is the thickness of the lamellae? James reckons the originals were 3-5mm.
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Quote:Here, one photo with Faventianus inside:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/ ... G_9125.jpg
Bravo, Faventianus, Very good work!
Thanx Cesar, Venint de tu, aquest comentari val el seu pes en or! (I really appreciate what you've said).
Quote:Great picture - finally we get a good look..
Why is this thread in the marketplace section again?
I started this thread as a possible source of a leather lamellar vendor to buy... at last I made it myself! :wink: :roll:
Quote:Yep. Very cool. What is the thickness of the lamellae? James reckons the originals were 3-5mm.
3mm. Thanx!
Quote:Looks cool!
And best wishes for your disc
Thanx! I've already lost 6 kg! 9 more left!
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