11-25-2013, 01:52 PM
Somehow the thread does not move up in the index. :-)
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
Ancient three- and four-masters
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11-25-2013, 01:52 PM
Somehow the thread does not move up in the index. :-)
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
10-11-2014, 12:39 AM
No Italian speakers on board? mile:
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
10-11-2014, 02:11 AM
Do we know whether the obelisk ships were actual sailing vessels, or just big barges towed by conventional galleys?
Pecunia non olet
10-11-2014, 03:21 PM
Can't add anything on masts but when discussing Obelisk ships there is an interesting article by A.Wirsching (How the obelisks reached Rome.The International Journal of Nautical Archaeology and underwater 29, pp. 273-283). He thinks that at least one of the Obelisk ships (I think he was referring to the Caligula ship which was supposedly sunk by Claudius to make an extra breakwater, was in fact a sort of trimaran consisting of three ships with two aft ships of approximately 37 metres in length and 5 metres wide each connected by longitudinal beams with the obelisk completely below the waterline between them with a third ship being the largest in front possibly a trireme to help steer the two aft ships across the Mediterranean. Interesting theory anyway but diagram below. :?
[attachment=10952]obeliskship.jpg[/attachment] Regards Michael Kerr
Michael Kerr
"You can conquer an empire from the back of a horse but you can't rule it from one"
10-11-2014, 05:25 PM
Some types of ancient ships didn't have oars at all (i.e. corbita ships) there is a very hard limit to how effectively you could trade with oared ships.
Dan
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