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Avete Omnes,
I'm helping to put together an exhibition on Roman Africa (i.e. Africa west of Egypt and Cyrene)
and trying to find out if there's been any Roman military equipment recovered from there. The exhibit
takes place at a local university later this year.
Are there any examples of helmets, weapons, armor, clothing, or shields from modern Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, or Libya ?The only item I know, which is very late, is a Baldenheim helmet [see my avatar] from Lepcis Magna.
I realize western archaeologists have had little access to the Roman sites in these countries due to hostile relations with their governments but if you can list any other items it would be appreciated. There's a laudes in it for you :wink:
~Theo
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There is a book published about military items made in copper alloy from Maroc. I have some fotocopys of it, and there were pieces as:
-Sword scabbard slides.
-Sword chapes.
-Cingula pieces including some apron straps terminals.
-Balteus sword apliques including one in form of an egle (very often used by re-enactors).
-Pieces of artillery (modioli)
And more...
Christiane Boube-pic, Les Bronzes Antiques Du Maroc. Iv. L'equipement Militaire Et L'armement, 1994. ISBN:2865382443
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Quote:... modern Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, or Libya?
Our French colleagues will be your best bet, Theo -- it has mostly been French research in these countries, as far as I recall. The "Bronzes from Morocco" volume (already mentioned) is the only publication that immediately springs to mind, but I'm sure there must be others.
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Thank you, both. This is a good start.
I'll see if I can obtain a copy of the French findings.
Maybe our Italian members know of some similar excavations done in Libya.
The article about the Baldenheim helmet found at Lepcis Magna was German.
And I thought there was an outside chance American archaeologists had visited the sites right after WWII.
Let's see if anyone else responds. We might get lucky..
~Theo
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Quote:And I thought there was an outside chance American archaeologists had visited the sites right after WWII.
R.G. Goodchild ("British antiquities officer for Tripolitania", 1946-48!) did a lot of work in Libya (e.g. Geographical Journal 1950, 1952, etc.), but he was more interested in mapping structures. But, as you say, you might get lucky.
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The Boub-Pic book that was mentioned (Christiane Boube-Pic, Les Bronzes Antiques Du Maroc. Iv. L'equipement Militaire Et L'armement, 1994) also contains information on armour pieces, such as lorica segmentata. Some of these are of a somewhat unique nature!
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Quote:Christiane Boube-pic, Les Bronzes Antiques Du Maroc. Iv. L'equipement Militaire Et L'armement, 1994. ISBN:2865382443
For anyone trying to find this, the author's name is Boube-Piccot.
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There is of course the post put forward in Re-enactment and Reconstruction at the moment about the XI Parma center boss which is the Personification of Africa. This boss has the the inscription COH I GAE FRVNTONI CVMVNI (First Cohort of Gaetulorum...) The cohort was raised in Africa and served in Syria from 88 to 91 AD they were the GAETULI or GETULI this tribe came from the region of MORROCO.
The center boss in the post by Alexander has been cast however I am currently beating out a copy in brass at this time, here are links to the boss that I am producing but for the finished item see XI Parma at re-enactment and reconstruction.
http://www.northumberland-computers.com ... /boss1.jpg
http://www.northumberland-computers.com ... /boss2.jpg
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Sorry by the wrong transcription of the author. :oops:
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Quote:Sorry by the wrong transcription of the author. :oops:
No need to apologise. You could have slipped back and quietly edited your earlier post!! :wink:
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Quote:(i.e. Africa west of Egypt and Cyrene)
Awwww...Sad
..Is there any Roman artifacts from (Egypt) published?
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In Algérie antique, Arles, 2003, you will find pictures of the two helmets (one sports and one combat helmet) from Ain Grimidi, Algeria, as well as certain other military equipment (i remember parts from baldrics representing shields).
Re. Egypt, there is a cavalry sports helmet from Antinoopolis (Garbsch, Römische Paraderüstung, No. 0-12) and of the course there are the later spangenhelme (Leiden, Der-El-Medineh) and the crocodile skin "armor"
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Quote:There is of course the post put forward in Re-enactment and Reconstruction at the moment about the XI Parma center boss which is the Personification of Africa. This boss has the the inscription COH I GAE FRVNTONI CVMVNI (First Cohort of Gaetulorum...) The cohort was raised in Africa and served in Syria from 88 to 91 AD they were the GAETULI or GETULI this tribe came from the region of MORROCO.
The center boss in the post by Alexander has been cast however I am currently beating out a copy in brass at this time, here are links to the boss that I am producing but for the finished item see XI Parma at re-enactment and reconstruction.
http://www.northumberland-computers.com ... /boss1.jpg
http://www.northumberland-computers.com ... /boss2.jpg
I knew I had seen that boss before! :roll:
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Byron. Would you be refering to the one I am reproducing or the one on the R and R section of RAT ??
The original boss is late Ist century AD and published: J. Eisenberg. The Age of Cleopatra. 1988. no. 83: C. Vermeule and J. Eisenberg, Catalogue of the Greek, Etruscan, and Roman Bronzes in the Collection of John Kluge. New York and Boston.
The Gaetuli were conquered in early Imperial times by Cn. Cornelius Cossus Lentulus who thereafter bore the surname Gaetulicus, so we have to consider if this center boss was created in west Africa before going on to Syria with this cohort in the Flavian period maybe but then we do know that it has a west African connection.
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Well actually, I have seen the post and yours, but I had forgotten I had seen your info on it when I last visited you.
The post had rung a bell but I couldn't recall where I had seen it before.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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