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Quote:It would be great to clone one of these one man pugio factories :lol:
Only for the decoration. Watching experienced craftspeople doing highly skilled work always makes my jaw drop at how fast they are. I'm not talking about modern custom armourers who generalise, but people who do the same thing, day in and day out. I recall one comment that the guys inlaying the new decorated Deepeeka pugiones thought the work was silly simple, compared to what they usually do.
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Just wen in the manufacturing process of the handle is the decoration put on? :roll:
When you form it like Cesar did, can you still do the inlay work?
It looks like I misunderstood what my friend Jef meant about forming the upper part of the sheath. I think it is quit easy to form it just hammering it in the right shape. Question is, does one do it before or after the inlay is done? I would think before, otherwise the inlay is bound to pop out because of the bending and vibrating of the sheath during the hammering.
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I have looked at some pictures of originals and since some of the sheaths are really beautifully shaped, very symmetrical, maybe some kind of pattern to shape it over seems very likely. After all, a wooden positive is made easily, it just takes some time. Especially when you can use it several times.
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Quote:Jurgen, here you can see how the Indian craftsmen do the pugio handle decoration (Gagan posted the pictures):
All the inlay work should be done before assembly but after they have been formed I think.
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Great!
So, they seem to form the handle plate over a metal? shape and without removing it from the shape they inlay it. It is as simple as it is perfect!
But what is it with the blue color? Do they paint it to see the design better?
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Quote:Quintilianus:4hrmgpq0 Wrote:I have looked at some pictures of originals and since some of the sheaths are really beautifully shaped, very symmetrical, maybe some kind of pattern to shape it over seems very likely. After all, a wooden positive is made easily, it just takes some time. Especially when you can use it several times.
Perhaps you can make a form and chunk out one of these undecorated scabbard upper parts for some of your commilitones
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Marcvs it looks to me they have used engineers blue a special paint we used in the shipyards for marking purposes when doing fitting work, but ideal for doing design work like above.I made my own press to bash out pugio handles like in the picture below
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