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Quote:There are certainly variations on a theme as you infer but to be honest I made the point more because a) you can't actually see the strap and b) I don't like seeing re-enactors without the fifth "balance" strap as it is a safety issue!
You could also argue the case that the strap is not shown on later tombstones as it may relate to the terrain the cavalry were operating on...or just becasue the stone mason forgot :wink:
Would you have a selection of photos and diagrams that show exactly what you mean?
I would really appreciate as much info on that as possible.
The straps i have on my extra harness fittings are too short for all the horses i have tried so far, so I need to make something new!
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Quote:And again how do you interpret what is around the neck?
In this case I observe, I don't interpret. Could be a scarf, could be a tunic, could be an arming doublet. This piece is no Annaius so I would be wary of using it as evidence of anything beyond the fact that Romans had two legs and a haircut!
Quote:Without wishing to sound like a creep, these are a particularly good set of photographs; thank you.
You're welcome, but I'm afraid that did set the lights flashing on the creepometer on my dashboard ;-)
Quote:The straps i have on my extra harness fittings are too short for all the horses i have tried so far, so I need to make something new!
Or get a smaller horse, maybe? :-D
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Mysteriously, Duncan's posts with the pot and kettle seem to have disappeared. What is going on here?!
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Quote: Vindex Wrote:Without wishing to sound like a creep, these are a particularly good set of photographs; thank you.
You're welcome, but I'm afraid that did set the lights flashing on the creepometer on my dashboard ;-)
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I'll take it back then and keep my compliments to myself in future.
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Quote:Vindex post=305465 Wrote:There are certainly variations on a theme as you infer but to be honest I made the point more because a) you can't actually see the strap and b) I don't like seeing re-enactors without the fifth "balance" strap as it is a safety issue!
You could also argue the case that the strap is not shown on later tombstones as it may relate to the terrain the cavalry were operating on...or just becasue the stone mason forgot :wink:
Would you have a selection of photos and diagrams that show exactly what you mean?
I would really appreciate as much info on that as possible.
The straps i have on my extra harness fittings are too short for all the horses i have tried so far, so I need to make something new!
Yes, I can can certainly do that. I've also adjusted the straps on my own extra bits of "Roman" harness that I bought although I no longer have the saddle they fitted. I'll take some photographs of that. For quick reference look at the (non Roman) avatar on my FB page! How much safety tack do you want on a horse LOL!!!
Have I got your email? It may be easier to do it that way then we won't be accused of taking the thread off line. PM it to me if you prefer.
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Quote:The straps i have on my extra harness fittings are too short for all the horses i have tried so far, so I need to make something new!
Or get a smaller horse, maybe? :-D
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Nope, can't go any smaller or will be riding a donkey....even Cloe was too big!  mile:
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There are no less than THREE emails on their way to you GJC!
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Quote:Mysteriously, Duncan's posts with the pot and kettle seem to have disappeared. What is going on here?!
Sorry -- my fault. I thought they were a bit OT so I asked for them to be removed, so as not to clog up your Tombstones discussion with undue frivolity. mile:
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Quote:Sorry -- my fault. I thought they were a bit OT so I asked for them to be removed, so as not to clog up your Tombstones discussion with undue frivolity. mile:
Frivolity, I feel, should be compulsory. Especially from anybody specialising in ancient artillery...
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Quote:Nope, can't go any smaller or will be riding a donkey...
JC on a donkey -- yep, I could see that. :wink: ( Oops, I'm supposed to be keeping my OT frivolity to a minimum.)
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Quote:There are no less than THREE emails on their way to you GJC!
is that what it takes to email a larger horse? hock: I would have thought you would be better off waiting for the perfection of matter transference technology (beyond horseboxes, of course).
Meanwhile, here's a smaller horse, with Vonatorix on his (yes, definitely his) back.
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Quote:Vindex post=305699 Wrote:There are no less than THREE emails on their way to you GJC!
is that what it takes to email a larger horse? hock: I would have thought you would be better off waiting for the perfection of matter transference technology (beyond horseboxes, of course).
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A lot easier if you chop the legs off and seperate the quarters from the forehand.
Interesting girth on this 'ere 'oss...OR could it be <holds breath> the first indication that perhaps, just perhaps the Romans DID have stirrups hock: hock: hock: ?
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Quote:Interesting girth on this 'ere 'oss...OR could it be <holds breath> the first indication that perhaps, just perhaps the Romans DID have stirrups hock: hock: hock: ?
No, I think the sculptor just didn't get the relationship between girth and saddle.
In case anyone wonders what the lump is in the foreground, it isn't a diminutive cowering dalek instead of the usual tawdry barbarian, but rather a plinth to support the missing foot. He clearly had issues with carving feet in the round too...
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When examined closer there appears to be what might be a breast band and some sort of neck protection for the horse, there was indeed a part decorative breast band found at Vindolanda so can this be what we see beneath the chest band of the harness.
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Quote:No, I think the sculptor just didn't get the relationship between girth and saddle.
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Everything else seems to be so well executed, however; and if the plinth supported the rider's toe, the alignment would be in place for the stirrup to be painted on. Although, admittedly, there is no sign of a stirrup on his other foot. But that could have been painted on too.
Brian - I think it is the representation of the horse's muscles (or fat, actually!) if you compare the banding round the horse's neck to that above the off fore leg.
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