Unlined Helmet

[Ceasar Augustus]

I somehow doubt you're lazy...

[DanM]

Lazy for certain things, refer to the list

LAZY-

-Cleaning
-Homework
-Brushing teeth
-Getting Up (sometimes)

NOT LAZY-

-Cooking
-Building
-Digging
-Reading
-Thinking
-Learning

[Giannis K. Hoplite]

So,the arming cap should be in the non-lazy activities :lol: The roman arming cap might work for you.It doesn't sound very outhentic,or roman either.It's all cotton. But if you don't need it to look authentic,hidden under your helmet,then ou can use whatever fits you better. You'll know that only after you've gotten the helmet.
An other idea,which was about to try but didn't,is moder felt hats,mostly for women those are.You rip appart the decoration-felt flowers,ribbons and such-and you cut the rim and you have a hemispherical cap.You may need two such caps,depending on how thick you want it to be.
Khaire
Giannis

[Ceasar Augustus]

I'm about the same Dan... :lol:

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Dan, I found when I tipped my Deepeka helmet back, the back rim cut into my neck. I cut a strip of very soft leather about 1.5 inches wide and long enough to go around the back from earhole to earhole. I folded about 1/2" of the strip under and glued the whole thing along the rim. The edge looks finished because of the double fold and the brass rim is padded just enough.

There I was thinking with all that hair that you wouldn't have this issue! :roll:

[Ceasar Augustus]

Apparently you were mistaken :lol:

[DanM]

Well, for now with my samll head, I could use padding. After that, I could hot glue in an arming cap of some sort, but I'll have to buy the helmet first. I wont go to the armorer until I get back from Montana, I'm leaving in 10 days, so I have several weeks. My friend ( Quintus Brutii, as he is known on here ) already has a corinthian helm. Maybee I could ask him if I could see his to get an idea, but his came lined.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Apparently you were mistaken :lol:

As the Spartans probably had as much, a decent helmet would make me right.... :wink: :lol:

[Tarbicus]

There's an engraving by Strutt of a piece in the British Museum , that shows an almost medieval style arming cap but with holes for the ears.

http://www.costumes.org/History/acarter ... 794064.jpg

From: http://www.costumes.org/History/100page ... reece1.htm

You could always get yourself ONE OF THESE (I have one made from linen - shop around) and modifiy it. Or make one?

[hoplite14gr]

you might find this of interest
http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/ ... 0302-1.jpg

Kind regards

[Ceasar Augustus]

Maybe, Gaius.

[Kineas]

Word to the wise.

I used to spend a great deal of time wearing helmets. It is good to have your liner be removable for washing.

Both my K-pot and my 14th century boar snout bassinet (and my 1777 British LI officers helmet) all develop an certain and very offensive smell of old cheese.

[DanM]

What if I put febreeze in it?

[Gaius Decius Aquilius]

A few months ago I received a Cretan style bronze helmet from Manning Imperial. As per the original, the bronze was thin and it is a close fitting helmet. In a way, it just snaps into place. At first I used an arming cap, but sliding it on over the ears was always a problem. I then uses a scarf that covered the ears. The one I uses was actually for a Samurai helmet and still used in Kendo. This slid on and off easily over the ears but the helmet sank to low on brow. When held at the right level the relatively small eye cut outs which interferes with vision by just using the cap disappeared. I then put a small arming cap, such a seen on art from the 550s onward inside the helmet which was then put on over the scarf. This worked reasonable well.

The best combination, it seems, for the Cretan would be a small arming cap held in place by a long narrow scarf that covered the ear tops. The scarf tail would trail in back. I do not know if there is any artistic evidence for this. I have heard that traditional Cretan head wear is a tight fitting turban like head cloth, by coincidence. I have seen references to this to dating to the Roman period. Does anybody have any details on its construction?

R. Izard
etc.

[john m roberts]

As I recall, some of the Cretan peasants wore that twisted headband in "Zorba the Greek." I know there's a relief showing Cretan slingers wearing the twisted headband, apparently identical to the ones worn to this day. Maybe a source showing photos of Cretan peasants would be helpful.