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WHITE OR COLORED?
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Quote:But isn't a painting going to have shading on a figure regardless of whether it's a live figure or a statue anyway?
Not always. I was looking at some paintings of theatrical masks from pompeii. Some you can tell have a very stylized paint job. Others are painted realisticly. Also looking at statues in the paintings the two or 3 I noticed off hand were not painted at all but apeared to be just the natural bronze or painted a solid color.

Bronze statues would not have been painted. Only stone sculptures were painted, IIRC.

Quote:The colors of the recreations match what I mean as a base coat. For example the hair solid brown. Then they could have done something as simple as drybrushing a light tan over the brown to make the details stand out.

They could have, but this probably didn't match their aesthetic taste. They probably thought that the form itself provided enough shading.

Quote:And since we only have basicly a stain left you would have no way to tell about secoundary coats of paint as they would never touch the marble itself but only sit on the first layer of paint.

I think some of this would have shown up on larger sculpture such as the Alexander sarcophagus, which had intact detailed paint still surviving to be photographed in the late 19th century. It had no undercoat and no shading or highlighting.

Quote:And I am not saying all were done this way. But think about it they spend a fortune having a sculpture made perfectly life like then have someone with no more talent than a fence painter but on the paint?

Because, as I said, you are applying your modern aesthetic to these things. Many people wouldn't think of painting a stone building tons of gaudy solid colours either, but they thought it looked good.

Quote:I had that thought too, and then it occurred to me that what if future historians based their concept of the US Army (or any other for that matter) on Hollywood films they might uncover in some future "dig" -- gads what a mish-mash of information they would have.

The Great Tunic Debate, I fear, will remain just that for a long time to come.

I've thought about this as well, but the only real comparisons are with large scale official, usually urban, monuments like Trajan's column and such. Stelae, local monuments like the Adamklissi metopes and the Mainz reliefs, and other such "provincial" work would most likely have been done by craftsmen with a decent knowledge of military matters, or at least access to information on it.
Ruben

He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
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WHITE OR COLORED? - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 04-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Robert Vermaat - 04-20-2007, 02:41 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Narukami - 04-20-2007, 03:02 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Martin Wallgren - 04-20-2007, 03:27 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by aitor iriarte - 04-20-2007, 06:48 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Theodosius the Great - 04-20-2007, 07:08 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Theodosius the Great - 04-20-2007, 07:18 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Carlton Bach - 04-20-2007, 07:25 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-20-2007, 07:42 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Theodosius the Great - 04-20-2007, 07:50 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-20-2007, 07:52 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by FAVENTIANVS - 04-20-2007, 11:07 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Theodosius the Great - 04-20-2007, 11:46 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Arthes - 04-21-2007, 01:19 AM
Colorful - by Marcus Julius - 04-21-2007, 01:58 AM
Re: Colorful - by MeinPanzer - 04-21-2007, 02:56 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Sulla - 04-21-2007, 06:55 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-21-2007, 08:26 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 04-21-2007, 08:30 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Sulla - 04-21-2007, 08:44 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 04-21-2007, 08:48 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-21-2007, 09:23 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Et tu brute - 04-21-2007, 05:19 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Sulla - 04-21-2007, 06:08 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Ironhand - 04-21-2007, 09:36 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by M. Demetrius - 04-21-2007, 10:36 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Ironhand - 04-21-2007, 11:01 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 04-21-2007, 11:14 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Narukami - 04-22-2007, 01:30 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-22-2007, 02:32 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Magnus - 04-22-2007, 04:23 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-22-2007, 05:36 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Carlton Bach - 04-22-2007, 08:55 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 04-22-2007, 09:56 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Ironhand - 04-23-2007, 03:40 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Magnus - 04-23-2007, 03:51 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by MeinPanzer - 04-23-2007, 05:31 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by egfroth - 04-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 04-23-2007, 09:37 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 04-23-2007, 12:31 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by M. Demetrius - 05-04-2007, 12:35 AM
White v Coloured - by Paullus Scipio - 05-04-2007, 01:05 AM
Re: White v Coloured - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 08:14 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Paullus Scipio - 05-04-2007, 08:54 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 05-04-2007, 09:07 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 09:15 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 05-04-2007, 09:46 AM
White v Coloured - by Paullus Scipio - 05-04-2007, 09:56 AM
Re: White v Coloured - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 10:36 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 11:04 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 11:12 AM
White or coloured - by Paullus Scipio - 05-04-2007, 11:16 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 11:17 AM
White or coloured - by Paullus Scipio - 05-04-2007, 11:40 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 11:48 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Paullus Scipio - 05-04-2007, 12:59 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Narukami - 05-04-2007, 06:44 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 05-04-2007, 06:47 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Narukami - 05-04-2007, 06:47 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Paullus Scipio - 05-05-2007, 04:13 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by john m roberts - 05-05-2007, 09:30 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Marcus F. - 07-23-2007, 01:21 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Pertinax - 07-23-2007, 01:31 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by M. Demetrius - 07-23-2007, 01:36 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 07-23-2007, 07:11 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 07-23-2007, 07:43 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 07-24-2007, 06:04 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Aetius Helvius Merula - 07-24-2007, 07:04 AM
White or Coloured - by Paullus Scipio - 07-30-2007, 09:22 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Tarbicus - 07-30-2007, 10:43 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Aetius Helvius Merula - 07-31-2007, 03:57 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Luca - 08-01-2007, 04:55 PM
Colour on statues - by Paullus Scipio - 08-01-2007, 11:00 PM
WHITE OR COLORED? - by jonwr - 08-01-2007, 11:11 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Luca - 08-02-2007, 06:52 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Endre Fodstad - 08-02-2007, 04:36 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Conan the Barbarian - 08-02-2007, 08:02 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Memmia - 08-02-2007, 08:17 PM
White or colour - by Paullus Scipio - 08-02-2007, 09:42 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by mpags - 08-03-2007, 03:50 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by john m roberts - 08-05-2007, 12:52 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Robert Vermaat - 03-06-2008, 09:00 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Jvrjenivs - 03-06-2008, 09:03 AM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by marcii ulpi messala - 03-06-2008, 12:47 PM
Re: WHITE OR COLORED? - by Memmia - 03-06-2008, 07:01 PM

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