05-27-2004, 02:02 AM
Viventia wrote:<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sigh! And Welsh, etc. came from the Continent too. I say it again, at what point do immigrants become natives? I guess I feel strongly about this as we now have a well-established black population in Britain, and I want to be inclusive.<hr><br>
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When a language is described as "British" (like the Welsh and Cornish branches of the Celtic family), "Celtic" or "Germanic" it's not (just) their point of origin that is being referred to, it's their structure and which language family they belong to most closely.<br>
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English is, therefore, most definitely a "Germanic" language, part of the West Germanic branch of that family and a descendant of Primitive or Common Germanic. "British" is used to refer to the insular branch of the Celtic family, not including Irish. So English is not a "British" language, it's a "Germanic" one.<br>
Cheers, <p>Tim O'Neill / Thiudareiks Flavius<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sigh! And Welsh, etc. came from the Continent too. I say it again, at what point do immigrants become natives? I guess I feel strongly about this as we now have a well-established black population in Britain, and I want to be inclusive.<hr><br>
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When a language is described as "British" (like the Welsh and Cornish branches of the Celtic family), "Celtic" or "Germanic" it's not (just) their point of origin that is being referred to, it's their structure and which language family they belong to most closely.<br>
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English is, therefore, most definitely a "Germanic" language, part of the West Germanic branch of that family and a descendant of Primitive or Common Germanic. "British" is used to refer to the insular branch of the Celtic family, not including Irish. So English is not a "British" language, it's a "Germanic" one.<br>
Cheers, <p>Tim O'Neill / Thiudareiks Flavius<br>
<br>
Visit 'Clades Variana' - Home of the Varus Film Project<br>
<br>
Help create the film of Publius Quinctilius Varus' lost legions.<br>
<br>
Come to my [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/member/Gunthigg/Thiudareiks" target="top]Stathigg[/url] in [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/City/23413" target="top]Germania[/url] at the [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/" target="top]Ancient Worlds[/url] community.</p><i></i>
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