09-19-2019, 12:43 PM
Although this publication has been around for almost 15 years and one might have expected that members here (who otherwise seem to be widely read) would have already seen or heard of it at least?... I think your point is very fair.
But here anyway is an extract.
Page 63. Looking for Zama.
"... the battle took place at the southern end of the Plain of Sers, near the village of Seba Biar, a location only advanced by Russell. This paper also proposes that Kbor Klib, a second century B.C. Numidian monument seven kilometres from Seba Biar, bearing martial decorations, and with no good explanation of its being there was constructed to commemorate the battle of Zama...
Kbor Klib dominates the slopes of a ridgeline to the east of Seba Biar. As noted by Ferchiou, the monument is hidden when approached from the east. From Seba Biar itself the structure is barely visible on the skyline, and would have been so even at its original height and coloration. Travelling west from Seba Biar on the natural route dictated by the topography, Kbor Klib comes into view at a point approximately midway between the village and the monument (fig.58). It seems clearly from here, along the three or four kilometer stretch of country lane, that the monument has significiance. And it is specifically here, in the farmland along this same stretch of roadway, that the battle of Zama is proposed to have been fought.
The site suits the limited infomation given in the ancient sources. Polybius notes that Hannibal, when he moved from Zama to a location near Scipio, camped at 30 stades, or approximately five kilometers, from his adversary (Lazenby 1998:218). It is proposed that Hannibal camped on the ridgeline where today stand the ruin of Kbor Klib. Scipio is proposed to have camped on the hill shown in the photograph below, taken from the summit of Kbor Klib, looking west (fig 59). The distance bewteen these two putative camps, measure by GPS, is 4.6 kilometers. It is proposed that the battle was fought here, on the plain between these two locations. This plain rises gently at one end, sloping away at the other, and includes relatively level terrain roughly five kilometers in width, more than wide enough for the four-kilometer long battle lines shown by Kromayer and Veith reconstruction of the battle ...."
a scan of figures 58 and 59:
http://grandmanoeuvre.co.uk/wp-content/u...img236.jpg
But here anyway is an extract.
Page 63. Looking for Zama.
"... the battle took place at the southern end of the Plain of Sers, near the village of Seba Biar, a location only advanced by Russell. This paper also proposes that Kbor Klib, a second century B.C. Numidian monument seven kilometres from Seba Biar, bearing martial decorations, and with no good explanation of its being there was constructed to commemorate the battle of Zama...
Kbor Klib dominates the slopes of a ridgeline to the east of Seba Biar. As noted by Ferchiou, the monument is hidden when approached from the east. From Seba Biar itself the structure is barely visible on the skyline, and would have been so even at its original height and coloration. Travelling west from Seba Biar on the natural route dictated by the topography, Kbor Klib comes into view at a point approximately midway between the village and the monument (fig.58). It seems clearly from here, along the three or four kilometer stretch of country lane, that the monument has significiance. And it is specifically here, in the farmland along this same stretch of roadway, that the battle of Zama is proposed to have been fought.
The site suits the limited infomation given in the ancient sources. Polybius notes that Hannibal, when he moved from Zama to a location near Scipio, camped at 30 stades, or approximately five kilometers, from his adversary (Lazenby 1998:218). It is proposed that Hannibal camped on the ridgeline where today stand the ruin of Kbor Klib. Scipio is proposed to have camped on the hill shown in the photograph below, taken from the summit of Kbor Klib, looking west (fig 59). The distance bewteen these two putative camps, measure by GPS, is 4.6 kilometers. It is proposed that the battle was fought here, on the plain between these two locations. This plain rises gently at one end, sloping away at the other, and includes relatively level terrain roughly five kilometers in width, more than wide enough for the four-kilometer long battle lines shown by Kromayer and Veith reconstruction of the battle ...."
a scan of figures 58 and 59:
http://grandmanoeuvre.co.uk/wp-content/u...img236.jpg
