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Lenticular pattern welded swords
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(08-28-2017, 09:49 PM)Luka Borščak Wrote: About the sutton hoo... Vince Evans inspected the remains of the original before creating a replica and found no evidence that it had a fuller. Check these threads: http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?...ince+evans and http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?...ince+evans
I am aware that there is a huge difference in fittings between fittings styles between late roman to saxon like sutton hoo. And I know how these styles look mostly. The thing is that I can't really make up my mind if I would like to fit my future sword like a late roman one, or later migration period like sutton hoo or vendel... So I was wondering if a lenticular blade with twisted pattern welded pattern, not straight lines piled, would really fit all these periods if fitted with appropriate fittings... I have seen a multi fullered 3rd century spathas pattern welded, but no lenticular ones... Also, I know goths and huns liked lenticular blades, but I am not sure if they used pattern welding...

Whilst I wouldn't disagree with Vince Evans interpretation, you have to bear in mind the SH sword was in very poor condition and was still in its mineralised scabbard.. the pics in "The Sutton Hoo Ship Burial, vol 2, arms armour and regalia" do show a couple of cross sections that imply a shallow fuller, though obviously open to interpretation...

A rather poor copy of the pic, in the original you can still see the mineralised fibres of the scabbard lining:

   

I would suggest checking out "Illerup Adal, vol 11-12, Die Schwerter" as there are several PW blades of lenticular shape and plenty of hilt evidence..
Also the finds from Ejsbøl Mose, link for the later excavation: http://en.unipress.dk/udgivelser/e/ejsb%...ose/volume this one apparantly contains some swords as well, but its the earlier report you want: http://www.worldcat.org/title/ejsbl-waff.../611114379 ...
having seen the original excavation finds in Haderslev museum in the 90s I can say the quality was nothing short of amazing many of the hilts were organic (what looked like a light wood) covered in thin sheet metal, unfortunatly the book was too pricy for me at the time....
Ejsbøl finds are at http://www.museum-sonderjylland.dk/SIDER...ologi.html

Together these should easily cover the 3rd-5th century ad...

Anglo saxon hilts tend to be somewhat different heres a link to EAA publications: http://eaareports.org.uk/topic/anglo-saxon/page/6/ many volumes can be downloaded free, Morning Thorpe and Westgarth Gardens both contain swords though I dont know if any are specifically lenticular..

http://eaareports.org.uk/publication/report38/

http://eaareports.org.uk/publication/report36/


worth getting if your interested in ring swords, a good reference article:
V. I. Evison, The Dover ring-sword and other sword-rings and beads. Archaeologia 101, 1967, S. 63-118

and the Dover report from ADS: http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/arch...no=1089023

There are plenty of others... IMHO though you would have difficulty stretching it to fit more then a couple of hundred years, there are doubtless exceptions...
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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RE: Lenticular pattern welded swords - by Crispianus - 08-29-2017, 07:15 AM

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