02-05-2017, 10:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2017, 09:18 AM by Crispianus.)
For the shoes you call "Cothurni" there's a number of possibilitys and you could create something without too much difficulty that looked like them from a distance, including seperate horizontal straps, it could still comply with known details of various shoes , but would be speculation taken to another level and the peculiaritys could be explained away in a number ways such as contemporays styles hellenised or antigued.. such high designs would be very difficult to produce as Allendales as surviving examples are not that high, for a large foot 6-7 inches perhaps....
The sandals on the grape pickers theres nothing strange there all quite possible..
The lower pic is more interesting to some extent, the lacy things are rather a mess, though with the diagonal straps could be based on hellenistic originals, I do know of at least one messy Roman shoe (which I would date tentatively as 2nd cent Ad on stylistic grounds) that has diagonal straps from Vindolanda so Roman shoe makers were not adverse to making such things.
The shoes on the right are probably of this type:
a fairly poor example but there is a few of these, laced across the ankle....
From Hawara tentatively 4th cent AD, previous noted in the Hellenistic shoes thread.
An example from the Walbrook London tentatively late 3rd cent AD, this time with double tabs, it may also have had a tongue. theres nothing to prevent the shoe maker from producing a knee length variation of this type.
As far as height is concerned I would estimate around 30cm or so (for the mosaics) based on the relative position of the calf muscle so their not as high as you might think, there are surviving boots from the the eastern provinces at least that would likely fall into this catagory, though they are fully enclosed dating from around the 3rd century AD... or possibly earlier...
The sandals on the grape pickers theres nothing strange there all quite possible..
The lower pic is more interesting to some extent, the lacy things are rather a mess, though with the diagonal straps could be based on hellenistic originals, I do know of at least one messy Roman shoe (which I would date tentatively as 2nd cent Ad on stylistic grounds) that has diagonal straps from Vindolanda so Roman shoe makers were not adverse to making such things.
The shoes on the right are probably of this type:
a fairly poor example but there is a few of these, laced across the ankle....
From Hawara tentatively 4th cent AD, previous noted in the Hellenistic shoes thread.
An example from the Walbrook London tentatively late 3rd cent AD, this time with double tabs, it may also have had a tongue. theres nothing to prevent the shoe maker from producing a knee length variation of this type.
As far as height is concerned I would estimate around 30cm or so (for the mosaics) based on the relative position of the calf muscle so their not as high as you might think, there are surviving boots from the the eastern provinces at least that would likely fall into this catagory, though they are fully enclosed dating from around the 3rd century AD... or possibly earlier...
Ivor
"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
