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Changes in the Roman Army
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It's the same word - Legio is the singular, Legiones the plural...........

So there's no difference in the titles of the different kinds of legion - the ND has both Legiones palatinae and legiones riparienses...

That there were different types is pretty uncontroversial. And if one type (the 'field legion' variety) really did have 1000-1200 men, that would seem to be a genuine innovation in late Roman unit structure........

Indeed I wasn't trying to be controversial, nor am I saying that the usage in Latin appeared any different - but simply that the word was used in two different, and delineated as in the ND, contexts.

I don't, however, see that there was any innovation, or indeed actual change in structure - but am simply suggesting that the later Field Army Legio was simply a now permanent example of the previously classic (older and big) legion detachment (vexillatio) of a pair of cohorts - with one of the Tribunes now placed in charge. Such detachments seem to have been the norm, and that's perfectly understandable given the need to keep the (at least a majority) parent legion as a presence on the border.

It's why I also see the move to the limitanei/riparenses back by mobile field armies as a gradual and evolutionary change and neither particularly innovative nor requiring fundamental change.

And for the extra note by Frank - yes indeed, I was suggesting nothing different.
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Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-10-2014, 11:01 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-10-2014, 01:00 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by antiochus - 03-10-2014, 01:11 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-10-2014, 01:13 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-10-2014, 01:17 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Frank - 03-10-2014, 01:22 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-10-2014, 01:23 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by antiochus - 03-10-2014, 01:49 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-10-2014, 02:24 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-10-2014, 02:42 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-10-2014, 03:07 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-10-2014, 03:14 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Flavivs Aetivs - 03-10-2014, 03:44 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-10-2014, 03:56 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-10-2014, 05:40 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-10-2014, 05:44 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-10-2014, 05:49 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-10-2014, 09:20 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Condottiero Magno - 03-11-2014, 04:40 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-11-2014, 09:32 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by antiochus - 03-11-2014, 09:47 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by mcbishop - 03-11-2014, 10:36 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Ross Cowan - 03-11-2014, 02:27 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by antiochus - 03-11-2014, 02:37 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Diocle - 03-11-2014, 03:50 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Flavivs Aetivs - 03-11-2014, 04:03 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Condottiero Magno - 03-11-2014, 04:06 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Flavivs Aetivs - 03-11-2014, 04:09 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Condottiero Magno - 03-11-2014, 04:17 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Condottiero Magno - 03-11-2014, 04:20 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-11-2014, 08:21 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Flavivs Aetivs - 03-11-2014, 08:33 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-11-2014, 09:26 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-12-2014, 09:27 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Frank - 03-12-2014, 10:29 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Ross Cowan - 03-12-2014, 12:00 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-12-2014, 01:16 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Macedon - 03-12-2014, 02:28 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-12-2014, 02:40 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-12-2014, 05:09 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-12-2014, 07:43 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Longovicium - 03-12-2014, 09:46 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-12-2014, 11:20 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Longovicium - 03-13-2014, 06:50 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-13-2014, 11:45 AM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Frank - 03-13-2014, 04:26 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-14-2014, 03:50 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Frank - 03-14-2014, 07:13 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Nathan Ross - 03-14-2014, 07:13 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Frank - 03-14-2014, 07:22 PM
Changes in the Roman Army - by Mark Hygate - 03-15-2014, 01:37 PM

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