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AE 1981 777
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A lot of the contributions I have made over the last year or so have been adjuncts to the organisational research I started; but many have been very interesting digressions and have influenced the final(ly..... :errr: .) end product no end with additional 'extra's - and this too is prompting such.

A few possibilities raise their heads in this case.....

- In the manipular (cf Polybius) legion the triarii are the 'senior' elements by virtue of their age and experience and role as the final reserve
- this leads to the Later Republic when the triarii evolve into the pili and lose their spears/hasta and permanently serve in full strength centuries/maniples, but are no longer the 'oldest'; the likely assumption being that the centuries are more homogeneous and fight in cohorts and not the previous legion-based triplex acies
- by the late 3rd century, as the inscription attests, however, the lanciarii have now appeared and it is possible that either, or both, the pili centuries have re-taken up the hasta, or, perhaps more likely given the ideas I've been having on how cohorts may have fought, are now forming a '3rd line' once more (but still in the cohort) behind the lanciarii or even archers by then and thus regained a more accurate triarii 'naming'

- When it comes to the 'ordo', which I have often seen referred to as a possible replacement term for 'maniples'
- is it, firstly, possible that an optio ordines is the senior optio of the two in an ordo/maniple, for that could make sense?
- and that the Early Empire primi ordines (as the 5 senior centurions of the enlarged first cohort) are so described because they each actually command an ordo/maniple-sized double-century?
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AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-13-2014, 02:41 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Nathan Ross - 02-13-2014, 03:09 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Renatus - 02-13-2014, 06:17 PM
AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-17-2014, 06:07 AM
AE 1981 777 - by D B Campbell - 02-17-2014, 08:26 AM
AE 1981 777 - by Nathan Ross - 02-17-2014, 01:18 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Mark Hygate - 02-17-2014, 01:54 PM
AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-17-2014, 02:15 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Flavivs Aetivs - 02-17-2014, 02:43 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Renatus - 02-17-2014, 03:11 PM
AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-19-2014, 12:24 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Frank - 02-19-2014, 01:17 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Flavivs Aetivs - 02-19-2014, 01:19 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Frank - 02-19-2014, 01:33 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Renatus - 02-19-2014, 06:30 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Mark Hygate - 02-19-2014, 09:58 PM
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AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-20-2014, 03:06 AM
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AE 1981 777 - by Renatus - 02-20-2014, 07:40 AM
AE 1981 777 - by Frank - 02-20-2014, 09:44 AM
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AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-20-2014, 12:38 PM
AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-20-2014, 12:49 PM
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AE 1981 777 - by Robert Vermaat - 02-20-2014, 01:30 PM
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AE 1981 777 - by Frank - 02-20-2014, 01:47 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Robert Vermaat - 02-20-2014, 01:59 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Flavivs Aetivs - 02-20-2014, 02:00 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Nathan Ross - 02-20-2014, 02:07 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Flavivs Aetivs - 02-20-2014, 02:14 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Nathan Ross - 02-20-2014, 02:27 PM
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AE 1981 777 - by antiochus - 02-21-2014, 06:42 AM
AE 1981 777 - by Robert Vermaat - 02-21-2014, 09:45 AM
AE 1981 777 - by Renatus - 02-21-2014, 10:01 AM
AE 1981 777 - by Renatus - 02-22-2014, 05:14 PM
AE 1981 777 - by D B Campbell - 02-22-2014, 11:32 PM
AE 1981 777 - by mcbishop - 02-23-2014, 02:27 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Flavivs Aetivs - 02-23-2014, 04:57 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Mark Hygate - 02-24-2014, 09:12 AM
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AE 1981 777 - by Ross Cowan - 03-09-2014, 01:58 PM
AE 1981 777 - by Nathan Ross - 03-09-2014, 02:26 PM

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