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Late Roman Attic helmets
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Quote:Now seriously.On the speculative level, why not?In the sense of speculative reconstruction it could exist,it is possible.But not on the basis of evidence we have.And those helmet findings from 5th century and post roman period which could be considered as ridge style(because of central band holding two main parts of the helmet)does not look in shape like those later Frankish,not even in contemporary art,until 9th or so,century.

[Image: scansione0013.jpg]



Now my dear Pavel, while I was watching an old Osprey book by Colonel Macdowall, I found an interesting pic from the Arch of Constantinus in Roma, I remind you that the sculptures of the time of Costantinus in the Arch belong to the early IV century, look:

[Image: Constantinusarch.jpg]

Now look at a detail of my work:

[Image: Romancehelmet.jpg]

It's the same helmet, of course, because I had in mind exactly this helmet, now read what Colonel Macdowell writes commenting the pic of the Arch with the 'strange' almost Carolingian ridge helmet:

"..The men in the tower wear ridge-style helmets, which unlike the Attic style have been confirmed by Archeology."


Now this was exactly what I wanted to show: The ridge helmets were of many kinds and the Arch of Constantinus shows us that the later Frankish helmet of the Carolingian Age was nothing else than a Late Roman model (like the exemplar sculpted on the Arch) that continued its life without interruption till the Carolingian Age. This is probably more likely being happened in Gaul, where this simpler model of ridge-helmet, slightly enlongated on the sides, to protect the neck but also to compensate the absence of the cheek pieces, probably was largely widespread during the last years of the Western Empire, when the Public Fabricae didn't guaranteed anymore the supplies for what remained of the Roman army in Gaul. Confusedmile:

Side note: The face of my legionary is beautiful also enlarged, I'm happy! I like this man! Cool
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Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-23-2013, 01:41 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Kai - 04-23-2013, 03:01 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Flavivs Aetivs - 04-23-2013, 03:19 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-23-2013, 03:36 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Flavivs Aetivs - 04-23-2013, 05:04 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-23-2013, 12:35 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-23-2013, 12:41 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-23-2013, 12:48 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-24-2013, 02:37 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Nathan Ross - 04-24-2013, 02:51 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Flavivs Aetivs - 04-24-2013, 03:30 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Graham Sumner - 04-24-2013, 04:00 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-24-2013, 04:07 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-24-2013, 02:58 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Flavivs Aetivs - 04-24-2013, 03:55 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-24-2013, 04:17 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Nathan Ross - 04-24-2013, 04:47 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Robert Vermaat - 04-24-2013, 06:26 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-24-2013, 10:43 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-24-2013, 10:50 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Longovicium - 04-24-2013, 10:53 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-24-2013, 11:32 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Nathan Ross - 04-25-2013, 03:10 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-25-2013, 03:42 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Robert Vermaat - 04-25-2013, 01:36 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-25-2013, 01:53 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Robert Vermaat - 04-25-2013, 02:08 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Nathan Ross - 04-25-2013, 04:42 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-26-2013, 04:31 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-26-2013, 04:37 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-26-2013, 04:44 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-26-2013, 04:51 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 04-26-2013, 04:58 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by eduard - 04-26-2013, 05:12 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-26-2013, 08:04 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Robert Vermaat - 04-28-2013, 04:43 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by M. Demetrius - 04-28-2013, 05:20 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by M. Demetrius - 04-28-2013, 05:31 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by eduard - 04-28-2013, 05:50 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-28-2013, 07:01 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 04-28-2013, 07:14 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Nathan Ross - 05-02-2013, 11:50 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by eduard - 05-03-2013, 01:15 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Nathan Ross - 05-03-2013, 01:34 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by eduard - 05-03-2013, 01:40 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Diocle - 05-03-2013, 08:03 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Flavivs Aetivs - 05-03-2013, 08:44 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by john m roberts - 05-03-2013, 09:00 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by Vitruvius - 05-04-2013, 08:30 AM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by eduard - 05-06-2013, 06:05 PM
Late Roman Attic helmets - by ValentinianVictrix - 05-06-2013, 06:24 PM

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