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Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2?
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An interesting dilemma.

A few years ago, Christie’s auctioned a new Late Roman helmet of hitherto unknown type. This seeming crossover between style has since been known as the ‘Christies helmet’, a several pictures of it circulate on this forum.

However, Jyrki (who asked me to post this) noticed of late that the pictures seem to show different helmets.
There’s the original picture with the black background, which corresponds to several other pictures which are in my possession, but which I can’t show here because I promised (my source) not to do so.

And there are other, more recent images, with a white background (shown here), which I thought were of the same helmet.

Jyrki notified me that to him, this seemed not to be the case. He noticed that the eyebrow on the left side of the helmet is nowhere near the bulbous rim and the start of the central ridge in the Christies helmet. In this other helmet the eyebrow is touching the bulbous outer rim and very close to the starting point of the central ridge.
I think he’s right. The nasal sits a lot higher on the second helmet, so either it’s been restored differently, or it’s a different helmet.

He also thought the angle of the neck guard is different, but I can’t make that out conclusively.

Other differences are a broken hinge on the left cheekplate and a difference in the bottom of the nasal, which seems more sleek on the first helmet.

Check out the images everyone, and help us out: a restored original, a second helmet, original or even a copy?
[attachment=639]christies1.jpg[/attachment]
[attachment=640]christies-comparison1.JPG[/attachment]
[attachment=641]christies5.jpg[/attachment]
[attachment=642]christies6.jpg[/attachment]


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Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Robert Vermaat - 04-21-2011, 03:02 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-27-2013, 06:17 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Conal - 01-28-2013, 04:27 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Renatus - 01-28-2013, 09:22 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-13-2014, 05:40 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-13-2014, 06:25 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-13-2014, 08:07 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-13-2014, 08:25 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-13-2014, 09:31 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-14-2014, 07:52 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-15-2014, 08:00 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-15-2014, 08:55 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Renatus - 01-16-2014, 12:30 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Renatus - 01-16-2014, 02:49 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-17-2014, 07:22 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-17-2014, 10:09 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-17-2014, 01:41 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-17-2014, 04:48 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 01-23-2014, 07:49 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Conal - 02-01-2014, 08:41 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Conal - 02-01-2014, 08:58 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 03-06-2014, 02:53 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Conal - 03-09-2014, 09:41 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 03-09-2014, 11:40 AM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Conal - 03-09-2014, 06:23 PM
Christies Late Roman helmet: 1 or 2? - by Virilis - 03-09-2014, 06:49 PM

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