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Roman Army Drill
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Quote:Ad gladium, clina: [cleena] To the right (sword side), face!
Why 'ad gladium'? The one source that we have uses the spear (ad conto) so why 'translate' this to 'gladius, instead of 'pilum'?

Quote:Langia (ad dex/ad sin/ambas partes): Open ranks (to right/left/both sides).
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Ad dex / sin depone: [day-po-nay] Wheel to the right/left.
Why use dex/sin here, when the source that you use elsewhere uses shield/spear for left/right? The command (which we do not have literally from a text, afaik) would better be ad scuta depone / ad conto depone, or variations upon that, I think.

Quote:Ad aciem: [ad ack-ee-em] Form battle-line. This is a rank (or series of ranks) facing the enemy, shield to front, pilum held in a light grip ready to cock and discharge. IT IS NOT A SHIELD WALL. The Romans did not employ shield walls in their standard battle formation, but advanced in an open formation with a gap of one-two feet between shields.
Ah!! Confusedhock: I would like to hear your evidence on that last statement; 'the Romans' being an Empire for over a 1000 years, 'never doing this or that' is dangerously close to Hollywood portraying every 'Roman' in segmetata armour. Big Grin
In my opinion, the Roman army had a lot of formmations in it's inventory, ranging from the manipular to falangial ones, which were used depending on the circumstance. I would never say that 'the Romans' always advanced with a 1-2 ft. gap between the men. This is evidently incorrect, even for the short period when the rectangular shields & segmentata were in use. Wink.

Of course, you can mention this as being the case for your particular show, but as a rule for 'the Roman army' I think it's incorrect.
Robert Vermaat
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Roman Army Drill - by Suetonius - 02-01-2011, 03:02 AM
Re: Roman Army Drill - by Jona Lendering - 02-01-2011, 04:29 AM
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Re: Roman Army Drill - by Robert Vermaat - 02-01-2011, 01:51 PM
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Re: Roman Army Drill - by Robert Vermaat - 02-07-2011, 02:49 PM
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