The Votadini exodus to Wales

[Robert Vermaat]

Meant to add this link. It's to a Google online book by Frank Reno, which covers the Cunedda question in some detail.
[url:532o2hiz]http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=V231D2Ff5nYC&pg=RA1-PA146&lpg=RA1-PA146&dq=cunedda&source=web&ots=TYW8GaI9F7&sig=eL5872h8axWQUFNic1TwGtEbuto&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result[/url]

Reno overdoes things a bit. he actually states that (Vortigern's sons) Britu and Vortimer were the same person as Cunedda, as well as the West Saxon king Elesa.
Like I said in the Riothamus thread, that's too much. Nothing from what we know of Cunedda agrees with what we know of Vortimer. Nothing from what we know of the West Saxon kings agrees with the others. It would be nice to 'know' that Cerdic was the son of Vortimer (others thought so before Reno on different grounds) but there's nothing reeally substantial to assume so.