04-05-2010, 05:22 PM
Yup..We all drift "off subject" and back to where we came from..some grim steppe. !!
Neighbours lending and borrowing? Of course this is the case and England is a classic example. Take marine terms alone. Vast amounts are Dutch, earlier ones (by origin not use) are Norsk, plenty are Roman and others are Vasco. Poland is literally awash with borrowed stuff. Words, German Law, Turco this and that..the list is endless. For all the blood letting, trade, money and wotsit are never stopped by "ethnic autonomy"..not for long.
I think, Alanus, you are right about the Czechs. They are regarded as slavs in the West but not so by the Poles and Russians who regard them as "different", shall we say etc. Thats partly traditional thinking but also to do with known histories.
There are folk who know a lot about this Celtic and metalwork thing. A disaster diaspora about 1200BC?? 1247? BC One that caused terrible civ collapses in Greece etc..lots of blank spots in history, rise of the Carians, Sea People, Hittites..the spread of metal and iron working specialists. Its not my thing but it is interesting.
R
Neighbours lending and borrowing? Of course this is the case and England is a classic example. Take marine terms alone. Vast amounts are Dutch, earlier ones (by origin not use) are Norsk, plenty are Roman and others are Vasco. Poland is literally awash with borrowed stuff. Words, German Law, Turco this and that..the list is endless. For all the blood letting, trade, money and wotsit are never stopped by "ethnic autonomy"..not for long.
I think, Alanus, you are right about the Czechs. They are regarded as slavs in the West but not so by the Poles and Russians who regard them as "different", shall we say etc. Thats partly traditional thinking but also to do with known histories.
There are folk who know a lot about this Celtic and metalwork thing. A disaster diaspora about 1200BC?? 1247? BC One that caused terrible civ collapses in Greece etc..lots of blank spots in history, rise of the Carians, Sea People, Hittites..the spread of metal and iron working specialists. Its not my thing but it is interesting.
R
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Today\'s truths are often tomorrow\'s lies
Today\'s truths are often tomorrow\'s lies