04-04-2010, 04:02 PM
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Re: Sub-Roman Britain Cavalry
Don't know about all Sarmats, but the Alans were forging Chalybean-type damascus steel swords prior to AD. Some studies through micro-spectography have been done on five different kurgan-found swords; they have random particles of steel ("cut steel," as the Lady of the Lake claimed). So it appears the Alans had highly efficient portable forges. Indeed, the swords became quite popular, finally known as the Black Sea Style. Fancy buggers. I suppose we ought to toss Britain into the ring, maybe ad the word c
Where is the evidence for that? Or is just well founded suppostion/ Are you sure they werent just buying wootz like everyone else? I d like to believe you!!!
Evidently the iron age began earlier than once thought. King Tutankamen had an iron Hittite dagger in his tomb, now in the Cairo Mus. The Hittites worked in exactly the same mountains that the later Chalybes dug their ore. (The Chalybes still, exist. My eldest son went to school with Nate Chalybe, son of an Iranian refugee.) In China, the iron age came late, but it came from the steppes-- as did the spoked wheel and Chinese chariot.
THats a rather upmarket surname to have!! But, yes. I agree entirely about the Hittite thing and regional orgins of the iron working game. And the iron age did of course start in different places at different times. It must have been a wondrous alchemy to people then and no surprise that arimaspians and other smith types were sacred/untouchable. In all this, it always permeates my mind that there is much important religion mixed in with all this. |The trouble is that discussion of this sort always attracts the bahmpots and fantasists..and..worst of all..etymologists etc who always go "yes, kalibes, as in tieh ES, brotther of Aes, son of the swor god SCAB..so you get Scabilebes..with dropped paramater guided consonants to have a glottal reversal making uggh into arrragh as in Swarrghd or Sword.etc etdc etc etc... Drive you ruddy mad!! (Apologies to etymolygos but you do all need treatment!)
Alan J. Campbell
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Re: Sub-Roman Britain Cavalry
Don't know about all Sarmats, but the Alans were forging Chalybean-type damascus steel swords prior to AD. Some studies through micro-spectography have been done on five different kurgan-found swords; they have random particles of steel ("cut steel," as the Lady of the Lake claimed). So it appears the Alans had highly efficient portable forges. Indeed, the swords became quite popular, finally known as the Black Sea Style. Fancy buggers. I suppose we ought to toss Britain into the ring, maybe ad the word c
Where is the evidence for that? Or is just well founded suppostion/ Are you sure they werent just buying wootz like everyone else? I d like to believe you!!!
Evidently the iron age began earlier than once thought. King Tutankamen had an iron Hittite dagger in his tomb, now in the Cairo Mus. The Hittites worked in exactly the same mountains that the later Chalybes dug their ore. (The Chalybes still, exist. My eldest son went to school with Nate Chalybe, son of an Iranian refugee.) In China, the iron age came late, but it came from the steppes-- as did the spoked wheel and Chinese chariot.
THats a rather upmarket surname to have!! But, yes. I agree entirely about the Hittite thing and regional orgins of the iron working game. And the iron age did of course start in different places at different times. It must have been a wondrous alchemy to people then and no surprise that arimaspians and other smith types were sacred/untouchable. In all this, it always permeates my mind that there is much important religion mixed in with all this. |The trouble is that discussion of this sort always attracts the bahmpots and fantasists..and..worst of all..etymologists etc who always go "yes, kalibes, as in tieh ES, brotther of Aes, son of the swor god SCAB..so you get Scabilebes..with dropped paramater guided consonants to have a glottal reversal making uggh into arrragh as in Swarrghd or Sword.etc etdc etc etc... Drive you ruddy mad!! (Apologies to etymolygos but you do all need treatment!)
Alan J. Campbell
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