01-02-2007, 02:18 PM
Salve Martin
Thank you for the link!!!
This article is very interesting! It disagrees with the knowledge of a few tests made by Markus Junkelmann (puplished in "Die Legionen des Augustus" and some books about the roman Cavalry)
I know as well from some tests of the archery-builder of LEG XI(reenactment group in Switzerland). His arrows penetrated even Scuti which had more than 1cm of thickness. He will be very suprised about this article, because he would swear on his arrows
I think it is particularly a question about the metal what was used to make the lorica hamata!!
I don't understand why the romans smiths invented the lorica segmentata if the roman lorica hamatas had been strong enough to resist even against arrowheads?!?!?!?! The only edge of the lorica segmentata - apart from its lesser wight - has been its impenetrability against most of weapons! But this edge has been well-paid with the unsafed thigh and hip!
But I lose myselve in the discussion about the hamatas!
That is exactly the most important point. In comparison to the secutor the Scissor lose with the missing scutum much more than he wins with any lorica!!!!!
No I speak from the secutor Theo Schaub ("crocodilus ")
salve
Thank you for the link!!!
Quote:Please give me the link to the post of the chainmail-test!
This article is very interesting! It disagrees with the knowledge of a few tests made by Markus Junkelmann (puplished in "Die Legionen des Augustus" and some books about the roman Cavalry)
I know as well from some tests of the archery-builder of LEG XI(reenactment group in Switzerland). His arrows penetrated even Scuti which had more than 1cm of thickness. He will be very suprised about this article, because he would swear on his arrows
I think it is particularly a question about the metal what was used to make the lorica hamata!!
I don't understand why the romans smiths invented the lorica segmentata if the roman lorica hamatas had been strong enough to resist even against arrowheads?!?!?!?! The only edge of the lorica segmentata - apart from its lesser wight - has been its impenetrability against most of weapons! But this edge has been well-paid with the unsafed thigh and hip!
But I lose myselve in the discussion about the hamatas!
Quote:Conal said: "It seems strange that anyone would give up a shield for a half moon knife !!"
That is exactly the most important point. In comparison to the secutor the Scissor lose with the missing scutum much more than he wins with any lorica!!!!!
Quote:Is that Christoph (obviously it's not been me, but I haven't done a secutor for more than a year either )? I've never talked to him about that ....
No I speak from the secutor Theo Schaub ("crocodilus ")
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