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Spolas? "Subarmalis"?
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Quote:That's NOT true at all, my friend! They DID used "Wall-shield" with THIS armor!
I have spent several years combing the Iliad for shield and armour references and retranslating the original text. I can't find a single instance in which a person is wearing a Dendra Panoply and carrying a full-height shield.

Quote:I'll try to find some images to post.
I would be very interested if you can produce an image, made at the time (not modern artistic interpretations), of a Mykenaian carrying a full height shield and wearing a Dendra Panoply.

Quote:.. AJAX, was wearing THAT type of armor and the report for his HUGE "Wall-type" shield
Where? Give me one line from the Iliad that suggests Ajax was wearing a Dendra Panoply. The only reference in the entire book to anything even remotely resembling a Dendra Panoply is the armour worn by Phyleides [15.529-534] and, IIRC Homer does not mention whether he carried a shield.

Regarding Ajax's "wall type" shield you will have to wait for my paper to be published. I have expended significant word count dismantling that translation. The only difference between Ajax's shield and many of the other shields described in the Iliad is the number of oxhide layers.
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Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Diffendale - 05-17-2006, 02:41 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Anonymous - 05-17-2006, 09:17 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by john m roberts - 05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 05-17-2006, 10:48 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 05-21-2006, 04:04 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Anonymous - 05-21-2006, 09:47 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-22-2006, 12:01 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 05-22-2006, 05:11 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-22-2006, 05:21 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Anonymous - 05-24-2006, 10:27 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-24-2006, 10:37 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-24-2006, 12:21 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-24-2006, 12:26 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 05-27-2006, 06:04 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-27-2006, 09:10 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-27-2006, 11:07 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-27-2006, 11:31 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-27-2006, 12:05 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-27-2006, 12:10 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-27-2006, 12:26 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 05-27-2006, 01:25 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-27-2006, 07:51 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 05-28-2006, 02:38 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-28-2006, 12:23 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-28-2006, 12:52 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Vincula - 05-28-2006, 02:11 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-28-2006, 02:27 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 05-29-2006, 01:27 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-29-2006, 01:31 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 05-29-2006, 01:46 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 05-29-2006, 04:02 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 05-29-2006, 06:23 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 06-08-2006, 11:44 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 06-08-2006, 01:14 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by tlclark - 06-08-2006, 02:04 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Susanne - 06-08-2006, 02:23 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by aitor iriarte - 06-13-2006, 08:13 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 06-13-2006, 11:44 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 07-03-2006, 09:14 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by aitor iriarte - 07-18-2006, 10:16 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Hoplitesmores - 07-21-2006, 10:24 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 07-21-2006, 10:33 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Hoplitesmores - 07-21-2006, 10:35 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by lupus - 07-21-2006, 10:41 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Hoplitesmores - 07-21-2006, 10:52 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 07-21-2006, 11:29 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by lupus - 07-21-2006, 11:53 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 07-22-2006, 05:50 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 07-22-2006, 10:16 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Zenodoros - 07-23-2006, 02:40 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 07-23-2006, 05:38 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by lupus - 07-23-2006, 10:24 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 07-23-2006, 12:44 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 07-24-2006, 01:06 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Hoplitesmores - 07-24-2006, 07:04 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 07-24-2006, 05:33 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Hoplitesmores - 07-25-2006, 06:04 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 08-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 08-16-2006, 11:25 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 08-16-2006, 11:42 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Tarbicus - 08-16-2006, 11:46 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Howard - 08-16-2006, 11:53 AM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Peter Raftos - 08-31-2006, 04:49 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Peter Raftos - 08-31-2006, 04:59 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 08-31-2006, 06:05 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Dan Diffendale - 08-31-2006, 07:14 PM
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Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Anonymous - 09-02-2006, 12:28 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by hoplite14gr - 09-03-2006, 12:01 PM
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - by Jason Hoffman - 09-13-2006, 10:21 AM

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