06-23-2004, 02:31 AM
Robert wrote:<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr> ... post-renaissance, it's the press.<hr><br>
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"Post-<em>Renaissance</em>"? Invented in 1450 AD, as a result of medieval market forces which had been trying to tackle the cheap/mass production of books by other means for centuries, responding to a growing medieval non-clerical literate class of readers (and consumers) and a result of the late medieval tendancy towards mechanisation, the printing press is a decidely and definitely a <strong><em>medieval</em></strong> invention by every possible definition.<br>
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Unless, of course, you subscribe to the (il)logic of shifting the dates of the so-called "Renaissance" around so it encompasses any medieval development that can't be reconciled with a so-called "dark age". I've seen people claim Chaucer and even Dante as Renaissance poets and argue that Giotto was "really" a "Renaissance artist.<br>
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Don't get me wrong - most Renaissance architecture and nearly all Renaissance art was truly revolutionary and excellent. But let's give the Middle Ages their due, please. They suffer from that out-dated and erroneous "dark age" myth enough already.<br>
Cheers, <p>Tim O'Neill / Thiudareiks Flavius<br>
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Help create the film of Publius Quinctilius Varus' lost legions.<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr> ... post-renaissance, it's the press.<hr><br>
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"Post-<em>Renaissance</em>"? Invented in 1450 AD, as a result of medieval market forces which had been trying to tackle the cheap/mass production of books by other means for centuries, responding to a growing medieval non-clerical literate class of readers (and consumers) and a result of the late medieval tendancy towards mechanisation, the printing press is a decidely and definitely a <strong><em>medieval</em></strong> invention by every possible definition.<br>
<br>
Unless, of course, you subscribe to the (il)logic of shifting the dates of the so-called "Renaissance" around so it encompasses any medieval development that can't be reconciled with a so-called "dark age". I've seen people claim Chaucer and even Dante as Renaissance poets and argue that Giotto was "really" a "Renaissance artist.<br>
<br>
Don't get me wrong - most Renaissance architecture and nearly all Renaissance art was truly revolutionary and excellent. But let's give the Middle Ages their due, please. They suffer from that out-dated and erroneous "dark age" myth enough already.<br>
Cheers, <p>Tim O'Neill / Thiudareiks Flavius<br>
<br>
Visit 'Clades Variana' - Home of the Varus Film Project<br>
<br>
Help create the film of Publius Quinctilius Varus' lost legions.<br>
<br>
Come to my [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/member/Gunthigg/Thiudareiks" target="top]Stathigg[/url] in [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/City/23413" target="top]Germania[/url] at the [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/" target="top]Ancient Worlds[/url] community.</p><i></i>
Tim ONeill / Thiudareiks Flavius /Thiudareiks Gunthigg
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