02-25-2006, 02:13 PM
Thanks Theo, that yould say more than I do!...
There should be a section on this forum about "History Detectives" like some shows, or Connolly & others are! :lol:
Hmmm!...about the Frech Knights vs English bowman!...
Yes, I saw that one too...but I think go to that time is going too far, if I'm not mistaking, the French knight were one the first who wore "Steel" plate armor, so if the english either at close or far range wouldn't do much damage or non to the plate of "Steel", if they were using in their arrows a head of iron, which was softer that Steel, wich in ancient time didn't exsist yet... BTW, the defeat of the French knight, wasn't the cause of the English Long bow, but the infantryman, with knife & hammer-spikes, since the mud, unable the French knights to move or those who fall from the horses can't stand up...So the English light infantrymen were quicker than the heavy armor...
The test made on "Steel" with some metods, some times weren't panetrated, but the heavy blow of a long bow or other havy weapon, would knock you out! ....But yes also "steel" can be penetrate.
This brough me a though, I remember when I fought TKD, many of the cases I wore helmet, sheen & arm protection, also I had a thorax that covers me the rear & front.... I felted many times the kicks & punches of the competitor, many people were knock out even wearing this....
A heavy blow, no matter if you wear heavy armor in your head, your braind will move side by side in your head, causin damage or disiness, in that way you pass out. The same hapened with the body, not matter if its protected with anything, something strong would make you fall down :lol:
To Answer to Jim & Travis, yes, I think every armor in ancien Rome & Greece etc, was penetrable, but all matter of the sircumstance, in my opinion...
PS: Alexander almost lose his life when the Persian give him a blow in his iron helmet!, thank God there was a Klitos!
There should be a section on this forum about "History Detectives" like some shows, or Connolly & others are! :lol:
Hmmm!...about the Frech Knights vs English bowman!...
Yes, I saw that one too...but I think go to that time is going too far, if I'm not mistaking, the French knight were one the first who wore "Steel" plate armor, so if the english either at close or far range wouldn't do much damage or non to the plate of "Steel", if they were using in their arrows a head of iron, which was softer that Steel, wich in ancient time didn't exsist yet... BTW, the defeat of the French knight, wasn't the cause of the English Long bow, but the infantryman, with knife & hammer-spikes, since the mud, unable the French knights to move or those who fall from the horses can't stand up...So the English light infantrymen were quicker than the heavy armor...
The test made on "Steel" with some metods, some times weren't panetrated, but the heavy blow of a long bow or other havy weapon, would knock you out! ....But yes also "steel" can be penetrate.
This brough me a though, I remember when I fought TKD, many of the cases I wore helmet, sheen & arm protection, also I had a thorax that covers me the rear & front.... I felted many times the kicks & punches of the competitor, many people were knock out even wearing this....
A heavy blow, no matter if you wear heavy armor in your head, your braind will move side by side in your head, causin damage or disiness, in that way you pass out. The same hapened with the body, not matter if its protected with anything, something strong would make you fall down :lol:
To Answer to Jim & Travis, yes, I think every armor in ancien Rome & Greece etc, was penetrable, but all matter of the sircumstance, in my opinion...
PS: Alexander almost lose his life when the Persian give him a blow in his iron helmet!, thank God there was a Klitos!
Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
Philip said that the Athenians were like the bust of Hermes: all mouth and dick.
