12-04-2003, 02:09 AM
FVC commented:<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>You gotta realize Hollywood doesn't care about accuracy (uniforms, weapons, etc.) ...<hr><br>
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But Hollywood <strong>does</strong> care about these things with <em>some</em> historical movies. It never gets all details right, but in movies like <em>Saving Private Ryan</em> it at least makes the effort to get things more or less right. But for some reason, when the movie is set more than 150 years ago, this suddenly becomes uneccessary. No-one has ever been able to explain why earlier history is somehow less real or less important than recent history.<br>
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It's not okay to depict the troops at D-Day in powdered wigs, bowler hats and space suit boots armed with scimitars and flintlocks. But apparently it is okay to do the equivalent in the depiction of the Marcomannic Wars. Why?<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr> ... and if they did, it'd only add to the movie budget, and therefore get scrapped anyway.<hr><br>
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I've been told this many times as well and still can't understand it. Why is an erroneously shaped helmet dreamed up by some art department ponytail cost more than a correctly shaped one designed with 20 minutes consultation of a couple of Osprey book?<br>
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Why does the silly-looking, brownish pseudo-segmentata from <em>Gladiator</em> somehow cost less than proper-looking segmentata made from the same material (but painted to look like metal)?<br>
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Why would a stupid Hollywood fantasy shield cost less than one made using exactly the same materials and labour after 15 minutes consultation of <em>Greece and Rome at War</em> by Peter Connolly?<br>
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Why would the Art Director on <em>Gladiator</em>, who declared that they had to make everything up because there simply wasn't enough information about Roman arms and armour (?!!!) cost less than an Art Director with some brains who thinks to phone some museum curators or e-mail some re-enactors and ask a few simple questions?<br>
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It's not cost - it's an entrenched culture of ignorance and intellectual laziness. <p>Tim O'Neill / Thiudareiks Flavius<br>
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Help create the film of Publius Quinctilius Varus' lost legions.<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>You gotta realize Hollywood doesn't care about accuracy (uniforms, weapons, etc.) ...<hr><br>
<br>
But Hollywood <strong>does</strong> care about these things with <em>some</em> historical movies. It never gets all details right, but in movies like <em>Saving Private Ryan</em> it at least makes the effort to get things more or less right. But for some reason, when the movie is set more than 150 years ago, this suddenly becomes uneccessary. No-one has ever been able to explain why earlier history is somehow less real or less important than recent history.<br>
<br>
It's not okay to depict the troops at D-Day in powdered wigs, bowler hats and space suit boots armed with scimitars and flintlocks. But apparently it is okay to do the equivalent in the depiction of the Marcomannic Wars. Why?<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr> ... and if they did, it'd only add to the movie budget, and therefore get scrapped anyway.<hr><br>
<br>
I've been told this many times as well and still can't understand it. Why is an erroneously shaped helmet dreamed up by some art department ponytail cost more than a correctly shaped one designed with 20 minutes consultation of a couple of Osprey book?<br>
<br>
Why does the silly-looking, brownish pseudo-segmentata from <em>Gladiator</em> somehow cost less than proper-looking segmentata made from the same material (but painted to look like metal)?<br>
<br>
Why would a stupid Hollywood fantasy shield cost less than one made using exactly the same materials and labour after 15 minutes consultation of <em>Greece and Rome at War</em> by Peter Connolly?<br>
<br>
Why would the Art Director on <em>Gladiator</em>, who declared that they had to make everything up because there simply wasn't enough information about Roman arms and armour (?!!!) cost less than an Art Director with some brains who thinks to phone some museum curators or e-mail some re-enactors and ask a few simple questions?<br>
<br>
It's not cost - it's an entrenched culture of ignorance and intellectual laziness. <p>Tim O'Neill / Thiudareiks Flavius<br>
<br>
Visit 'Clades Variana' - Home of the Varus Film Project<br>
<br>
Help create the film of Publius Quinctilius Varus' lost legions.<br>
<br>
Come to my [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/member/Gunthigg/Thiudareiks" target="top]Stathigg[/url] in [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/City/23413" target="top]Germania[/url] at the [url=http://www.ancientworlds.net/" target="top]Ancient Worlds[/url] community.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thiudareiksflavius>Thiudareiks Flavius</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-6/30850/200262963928-0-avatar-gif2.gif" BORDER=0> at: 12/4/03 3:13 am<br></i>
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HISTORY FOR ATHEISTS - New Atheists Getting History Wrong
HISTORY FOR ATHEISTS - New Atheists Getting History Wrong
