03-31-2024, 11:02 PM
FabiusB wrote:
I never claimed the size of the Legion wasn't fixed... in the Principate. I was speaking of the early Republic, not the Principate, but thank you for misquoting me!
You did write that that Republican Legions between the 3rd and 2nd centuries BC rose from 4-4200 to 52-5600, and that the Legions varied in size based on available manpower and campaign demands." That is what I was referring to. However, my next line was a change of thought, or a jump in time to the principate, so I do apologize for the confusion I caused.
FabiusB wrote:
Whether or not 5600 is a rounded number is inconsequential…
Well, I strongly disagree, as knowing whether it is rounded makes a big difference. The problem I have with these discussions, and academia in general, is no one seems interested in gathering up all the army and unit numbers for the principate, so as to better make conclusions. The most common method is cherry picking the data to suite one’s sensibilities. If all the data from the principate was correlated, Seutonius’ claim of 5,600 men is not alone.
So, does Seutonius’ figure of 5,600 include cavalry? In 67 AD, to suppress an uprising from spreading in the district of Samaria, Vespasian sent Cerealius, the legate of the fifth legion with a force of 3,000 infantry and 600 cavalry. In 70 AD, the Roman commander Titus, when surveying the fortifications of Jerusalem was accompanied by 600 selected cavalry.
FabiusB wrote:
It doesn't require a huge logical leap to conclude that if there are 60 centuries in a legion and 6 centurions are grouped together in a cohort, then 60/6 gives us 10 cohorts.
I’m completely at a loss here. Have I disputed a legion having 10 cohorts, or are you disputing Isidores’ comment that a legion had 12 cohorts?
I never claimed the size of the Legion wasn't fixed... in the Principate. I was speaking of the early Republic, not the Principate, but thank you for misquoting me!
You did write that that Republican Legions between the 3rd and 2nd centuries BC rose from 4-4200 to 52-5600, and that the Legions varied in size based on available manpower and campaign demands." That is what I was referring to. However, my next line was a change of thought, or a jump in time to the principate, so I do apologize for the confusion I caused.
FabiusB wrote:
Whether or not 5600 is a rounded number is inconsequential…
Well, I strongly disagree, as knowing whether it is rounded makes a big difference. The problem I have with these discussions, and academia in general, is no one seems interested in gathering up all the army and unit numbers for the principate, so as to better make conclusions. The most common method is cherry picking the data to suite one’s sensibilities. If all the data from the principate was correlated, Seutonius’ claim of 5,600 men is not alone.
So, does Seutonius’ figure of 5,600 include cavalry? In 67 AD, to suppress an uprising from spreading in the district of Samaria, Vespasian sent Cerealius, the legate of the fifth legion with a force of 3,000 infantry and 600 cavalry. In 70 AD, the Roman commander Titus, when surveying the fortifications of Jerusalem was accompanied by 600 selected cavalry.
FabiusB wrote:
It doesn't require a huge logical leap to conclude that if there are 60 centuries in a legion and 6 centurions are grouped together in a cohort, then 60/6 gives us 10 cohorts.
I’m completely at a loss here. Have I disputed a legion having 10 cohorts, or are you disputing Isidores’ comment that a legion had 12 cohorts?
