09-03-2015, 07:39 AM
Sorry John but you are making enormous leaps which cannot be supported by either etymology, archaeology or history.
Old Norse balkr "partition"or "furrow", both from Proto-Germanic *balkon- (cognates: Old Saxon balko, Danish bjelke, Old Frisian balka, Old High German balcho, German Balken "beam, rafter"), from PIE *bhelg- "beam, plank" (cognates: Latin fulcire "to prop up, support," fulcrum "bedpost;" Lithuanian balziena "cross-bar;" and possibly Greek phalanx "trunk, log, line of battle").
I especially like the phalanx and (not mentioned here) the possibility of fulcum also being derived from this word.
But never 'storm'.
Using a book on etymology from 200 years ago is not supporting anything. Etymology did move on.
The Chauci were a sort of proto-Saxon sea-raiders, totally uninvolved in the land trade acros Gaul. This was the area of Gaulish tradesmen, under the wings of the Roman Empirre. The Chauci lived to the North of the Roman border, occasionally raiding the coast. There is no room whatsoever for any cultural influences from Phoenicians who may or may not have had trading posts in the south of Gaul during the period of the 3rd c. BC and Germanic pirates who raided the coast of Northern Gaul during the 2nd and 3rd c. AD (there's a gap of 300 to 500 years!).
Quote: "Old Norse balkr means "storm" which is not Indo European root *bal - "strong".Sorry but no.
It seems to be loaned to Gaelic as bailc "storm" , but is not known in Fr or Brythonic.
Old Norse balkr "partition"or "furrow", both from Proto-Germanic *balkon- (cognates: Old Saxon balko, Danish bjelke, Old Frisian balka, Old High German balcho, German Balken "beam, rafter"), from PIE *bhelg- "beam, plank" (cognates: Latin fulcire "to prop up, support," fulcrum "bedpost;" Lithuanian balziena "cross-bar;" and possibly Greek phalanx "trunk, log, line of battle").
I especially like the phalanx and (not mentioned here) the possibility of fulcum also being derived from this word.
But never 'storm'.
Quote: " Beltane (May). floods", in the way that milk, cheese, lambs and deer are Bhealtuinn products."Again, no. The meaning of the 'bel' root in 'Beltaine' is (as posted yesterday) 'bright' or 'white', not 'fixed in May'. That this month was named after the festival does not mean that the festival means 'in the month of May'.
"fixed in May " as Bhealtuinn ( Armstrong 1825) is the Beltane ceremony of Scotland and Ireland.
Using a book on etymology from 200 years ago is not supporting anything. Etymology did move on.
Quote:In particular, is it likely that Marseilles Baal culture reached North sea pirates who were focussed on the sea-and-river trade route?I don't know any 'Marseille Baal culture' in the first place. The posibility of Phoenician traders setting up shop in the south of Gaul is one thing, to assume that there even was a 'Baal culture' there is an enormous leap of faith without any proof.
The Chauci were a sort of proto-Saxon sea-raiders, totally uninvolved in the land trade acros Gaul. This was the area of Gaulish tradesmen, under the wings of the Roman Empirre. The Chauci lived to the North of the Roman border, occasionally raiding the coast. There is no room whatsoever for any cultural influences from Phoenicians who may or may not have had trading posts in the south of Gaul during the period of the 3rd c. BC and Germanic pirates who raided the coast of Northern Gaul during the 2nd and 3rd c. AD (there's a gap of 300 to 500 years!).
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
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