02-04-2012, 11:39 AM
Random rejoinder
Pursuing Jens' reference to the Quartoparthoi, I have found two tantalising sources.
The first is a page on the Associazione Culturale Bisanzio website, "Legioni bizantine, quando scomparvero?" (dated 18 Apr. 2009). Unfortunately, I don't read Italian and can only conjecture about the meaning. (Any Italian-literate members out there, feel free to translate for me
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The first passage reads: "Tuttavia Teofilatto Simocatta attesta l'esistenza dei "Quartoparthoi" (ovvero la Legio IIII Parthica) negli anni 580, e ciò smentirebbe le affermazioni di Bury almeno in parte (secondo me erano quasi scomparse e rimanevano poche legioni come i "Quartoparthoi")." This suggests Bury as a source I need to follow there.
The second passage reads: "Su Wikipedia c'é scritto che la Legio V Macedonica andò probabilmente distrutta nella Battaglia dello Yarmuk del 636. E' vero? Io ho forti dubbi in proposito..."
I'm assuming for the moment what is being said is:
"Legio V Macedonica was destroyed in the Battle of Yarmuk - or is that true?"
Agsain, I must wish I could read Italian.
The second, and similar-sounding source is John Casey, writing in Birthday of the eagle (2002).
First Passage: "...legio V Macedonica, for example, survived from the republic to the reigh of Justinian and possibly later. (Casey 2002:175)" I'd have loved a citation right after "...to the reigh of Justinian" because I haven't been able to find an authoritative "latest date" for that particular legion. If anyone knows the source for Casey here, I'd be grateful.
Second Passage: "(I)t was the Emperor Heraclius ... who was to oversee the destruction of the last legions when at the battle of Yarmuk in 636 the Arabs overwhelmed the Roman Army...(Casey 2002:176)" Again, I'd have loved to have Casey's source for this and I'll just have to wait to get a print copy as the Google preview omits the list of sources.
References
Anon. 2009 Legioni bizantine, quando scomparvero? Impero Romano d'Oriente. Associazione Culturale Bisanzio. Accessed 4 Feb. 2012 at http://www.imperobizantino.it/node/2672
Casey, John. 2002 The legions in the later Roman Empire. In Richard J. Brewer (ed.) Birthday of the eagle: the second Augustan legion and the Roman military machine, pp. 165-178. Cardiff: National Museums & Galleries of Wales. Accessed 4 Feb. 2012 at http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LXF5...navlinks_s
Howard/SPC
Pursuing Jens' reference to the Quartoparthoi, I have found two tantalising sources.
The first is a page on the Associazione Culturale Bisanzio website, "Legioni bizantine, quando scomparvero?" (dated 18 Apr. 2009). Unfortunately, I don't read Italian and can only conjecture about the meaning. (Any Italian-literate members out there, feel free to translate for me
)The first passage reads: "Tuttavia Teofilatto Simocatta attesta l'esistenza dei "Quartoparthoi" (ovvero la Legio IIII Parthica) negli anni 580, e ciò smentirebbe le affermazioni di Bury almeno in parte (secondo me erano quasi scomparse e rimanevano poche legioni come i "Quartoparthoi")." This suggests Bury as a source I need to follow there.
The second passage reads: "Su Wikipedia c'é scritto che la Legio V Macedonica andò probabilmente distrutta nella Battaglia dello Yarmuk del 636. E' vero? Io ho forti dubbi in proposito..."
I'm assuming for the moment what is being said is:
"Legio V Macedonica was destroyed in the Battle of Yarmuk - or is that true?"
Agsain, I must wish I could read Italian.
The second, and similar-sounding source is John Casey, writing in Birthday of the eagle (2002).
First Passage: "...legio V Macedonica, for example, survived from the republic to the reigh of Justinian and possibly later. (Casey 2002:175)" I'd have loved a citation right after "...to the reigh of Justinian" because I haven't been able to find an authoritative "latest date" for that particular legion. If anyone knows the source for Casey here, I'd be grateful.
Second Passage: "(I)t was the Emperor Heraclius ... who was to oversee the destruction of the last legions when at the battle of Yarmuk in 636 the Arabs overwhelmed the Roman Army...(Casey 2002:176)" Again, I'd have loved to have Casey's source for this and I'll just have to wait to get a print copy as the Google preview omits the list of sources.
References
Anon. 2009 Legioni bizantine, quando scomparvero? Impero Romano d'Oriente. Associazione Culturale Bisanzio. Accessed 4 Feb. 2012 at http://www.imperobizantino.it/node/2672
Casey, John. 2002 The legions in the later Roman Empire. In Richard J. Brewer (ed.) Birthday of the eagle: the second Augustan legion and the Roman military machine, pp. 165-178. Cardiff: National Museums & Galleries of Wales. Accessed 4 Feb. 2012 at http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LXF5...navlinks_s
Howard/SPC
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