11-01-2011, 02:24 AM
Hi Graham S.!
Are you the autor of the books about the Roman dress?
I found i different forums and articles a lot of zitats from your books: i am researching and interested of dress, described in your first book (BC/1. cent. AD) because i am doing 1. cent. BC /the beginning and the end of it/
But what is my question on you:
you didn't wrote any reference to the Claire tablet-woven bands? Why?
The ornaments on the late la Tenne dress&roman early imperial dress is my lovely theme.
But in our debate here about the Falkirk tartan: some RAT members means, that in later roman time and army some stranger mans who were also members of the roman army could use the checkered clothes, too.
Well if this goes, than is all right with the tunic wich makes the Claire, too. She makes tunic for the mens from GB, but Graham: did you mean in your text the evidented items from GB, or from the continent? Zitat of your text here: "In fact those on the German tombstones look a very different style of tunic altogether, perhaps even influenced by eastern fashion not Gallic."
You should to use the GB evidence - maybe in GB the tunic were made of checkered textiles, aswell: the meaning comes from the textes about the Falkirk tartan-item. If they were checkered: that means in the style of the old inhabitants (barbarians). They used the tunic with sleves, sure and more:
we can find much threads in different forms and articles about the roman military dress in the cold weather, in the winter (f.e.: see the references on the Vicus site from UK) Will anybody say, that in cold weather and rain in the Nord, any roman time-periode, will be enough to wear only the short-sleves tunic with a Byrrus or sagum?
The same problem is with the roman trousers: pants, leg-wrappings, breeches, feminalia - all kind of the items: originaly we all know, that in the south provinces the solders didn't weare them. But during the time, when the roman-expansion went to the Nord, they protected them with better, warmer dress.
So i mean: the tunic with sleves goes in 1. cent. AD in UK by the cold and rainy weather.
Sorry for my bad english, regards from Slovenia!!
Joze
Are you the autor of the books about the Roman dress?
I found i different forums and articles a lot of zitats from your books: i am researching and interested of dress, described in your first book (BC/1. cent. AD) because i am doing 1. cent. BC /the beginning and the end of it/
But what is my question on you:
you didn't wrote any reference to the Claire tablet-woven bands? Why?
The ornaments on the late la Tenne dress&roman early imperial dress is my lovely theme.
But in our debate here about the Falkirk tartan: some RAT members means, that in later roman time and army some stranger mans who were also members of the roman army could use the checkered clothes, too.
Well if this goes, than is all right with the tunic wich makes the Claire, too. She makes tunic for the mens from GB, but Graham: did you mean in your text the evidented items from GB, or from the continent? Zitat of your text here: "In fact those on the German tombstones look a very different style of tunic altogether, perhaps even influenced by eastern fashion not Gallic."
You should to use the GB evidence - maybe in GB the tunic were made of checkered textiles, aswell: the meaning comes from the textes about the Falkirk tartan-item. If they were checkered: that means in the style of the old inhabitants (barbarians). They used the tunic with sleves, sure and more:
we can find much threads in different forms and articles about the roman military dress in the cold weather, in the winter (f.e.: see the references on the Vicus site from UK) Will anybody say, that in cold weather and rain in the Nord, any roman time-periode, will be enough to wear only the short-sleves tunic with a Byrrus or sagum?
The same problem is with the roman trousers: pants, leg-wrappings, breeches, feminalia - all kind of the items: originaly we all know, that in the south provinces the solders didn't weare them. But during the time, when the roman-expansion went to the Nord, they protected them with better, warmer dress.
So i mean: the tunic with sleves goes in 1. cent. AD in UK by the cold and rainy weather.
Sorry for my bad english, regards from Slovenia!!
Joze
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