09-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Hi, no - this helmets typus Nov mesto don't survive in AD time; they were existing only for some years. Yes: that's the point! The early variante of roman helmets: Weisenau D and i think, the G too, are with the long noric-swords together in the same graves but sometimes are they in paralele graves of the same time on the same cemetery: Verdun pri Stopicah. The leader of office for cultural herritage from Novo mesto Dr. Danilo Brescak is writting the book-study (for many years but he still didn't finish) about this late Lt D2 graves. He got me orig. archaeol. drawings and that are the base for doing of my replicas. I have some in my facebook profile, too.
Well, they don't survive but in Croatia from river Kupa from town Nova Gradiska comes another item of this helmet with human-mascs as decorattion.
Link: http://www.google.si/imgres?q=nova+gradi...x=87&ty=52
from museum in Osiek, Croatia (they have a book aboutr this item):http://www.google.si/imgres?q=nova+gradiska+keltska+kaciga&um=1&hl=sl&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=469&tbm=isch&tbnid=UVC6BF2D2YVuUM:&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4JaE7QsW_PS24BMZcuxP6g&docid=d7hRWyFRIw8lvM&itg=1&w=768&h=1024&ei=eJl8TvLnHsrb4QTNq-zIDg&zoom=1
the book:
http://www.google.si/imgres?q=nova+gradi...0Dg&zoom=1
The Weisenau helmets and another items from museum Novo mesto i posted yesterday in another thread about the Imperial gallic D from Slovenia (you have been linked it here).
About the romanisation and first roman Contacts in Slovenia you should ask here the RAT member Tromenta: he is leadder of roman group here and i think - he is archaelogist, too. I am really very new in reshearching of the time at the end of Lt D2 (Mokronog IIIb); my point was Lt D1 and the cemetery from Novo mesto: Beletov vrt, ab. 90 years earlier.
And at the end: on another cemetery - also very close to Novo mesto: the Strmec above the Bela cerkev = the same as Smarjeta near Bela cerkev (=booth names are publiched for this items!!)in the late Lt D2 graves are the same Noric-swords but for the roman helmets Weisenau D - there are some helmets of the typus Novo mesto from bronse with the wather-byrds decorations. And: in my first grave-reco from the Novo mesto. Beletov vrt, famous grave Nr. 169 is the same helmet typus Novo mesto but made of iron and with the animal, not the byrds. That mean that this time, Lt D1 and this grave "was moddel" for latter Novo Mesto helmet-typus and for that from Croatia, too.
But about the meaning of the first contacts beetween the celtic Taurisc and the Romans you should ask the Tromenta - he is working for the next RAT conference in Ljubljana next year that is the man i mean.
Joze
Well, they don't survive but in Croatia from river Kupa from town Nova Gradiska comes another item of this helmet with human-mascs as decorattion.
Link: http://www.google.si/imgres?q=nova+gradi...x=87&ty=52
from museum in Osiek, Croatia (they have a book aboutr this item):http://www.google.si/imgres?q=nova+gradiska+keltska+kaciga&um=1&hl=sl&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=469&tbm=isch&tbnid=UVC6BF2D2YVuUM:&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4JaE7QsW_PS24BMZcuxP6g&docid=d7hRWyFRIw8lvM&itg=1&w=768&h=1024&ei=eJl8TvLnHsrb4QTNq-zIDg&zoom=1
the book:
http://www.google.si/imgres?q=nova+gradi...0Dg&zoom=1
The Weisenau helmets and another items from museum Novo mesto i posted yesterday in another thread about the Imperial gallic D from Slovenia (you have been linked it here).
About the romanisation and first roman Contacts in Slovenia you should ask here the RAT member Tromenta: he is leadder of roman group here and i think - he is archaelogist, too. I am really very new in reshearching of the time at the end of Lt D2 (Mokronog IIIb); my point was Lt D1 and the cemetery from Novo mesto: Beletov vrt, ab. 90 years earlier.
And at the end: on another cemetery - also very close to Novo mesto: the Strmec above the Bela cerkev = the same as Smarjeta near Bela cerkev (=booth names are publiched for this items!!)in the late Lt D2 graves are the same Noric-swords but for the roman helmets Weisenau D - there are some helmets of the typus Novo mesto from bronse with the wather-byrds decorations. And: in my first grave-reco from the Novo mesto. Beletov vrt, famous grave Nr. 169 is the same helmet typus Novo mesto but made of iron and with the animal, not the byrds. That mean that this time, Lt D1 and this grave "was moddel" for latter Novo Mesto helmet-typus and for that from Croatia, too.
But about the meaning of the first contacts beetween the celtic Taurisc and the Romans you should ask the Tromenta - he is working for the next RAT conference in Ljubljana next year that is the man i mean.
Joze
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