08-30-2011, 03:29 PM
I have another hypothesis, that spatha has its origin in older so called Naue II type of swords, originating in south-eastern Europe and belonging to proto-Thracian/proto-Dacian most probably
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9G...AlSCoh8YHA
Its a long sword (usualy around 70-80 centimeters long) originating in Bronze Age but who was kept a long period (as shape and dimensions) in Iron Age as well
This type of sword might be spread all over by this proto Thraco-Dacians during last period of II milenium BC, when they started a series of invasions in Europe and even Asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples...hypothesis
"Michael Grant: "There was a gigantic series of migratory waves, extending all the way from the Danube valley to the plains of China."[56]"
"according to Finley:[57]
A large-scale movement of people is indicated ... the original centre of disturbance was in the Carpatho-Danubian region of Europe. ... It appears ... to have been ... pushing in different directions at different times."
http://www.novelguide.com/a/discover/ane...00120.html
"It has been argued that the wetland societies of the central Po Plain, the Alpine palafitte, and the terremare of the plain show evidence of contact with the Danubian-Carpathian region. Artifacts underlying this theory include antler horse bits and sword burials (as at Povegliano). What is certain is that the terremare of Emilia show a dramatic increase in settlement density, reaching levels of up to 1 site per 25 square kilometers"
Those swords buried there are the same Naue II type, originating in Danubian-Carpathian area
It is very possible that proto-Celtic (and Iranic as proto-Scythians or Sarmatians) peoples encounter or was hit by this wave of invasions or was dragged or pushed by them and adopted this type of swords from those invaders (or even mixed with them, as its possible in case of Masagetae or Tysagetae, and adopted some of their weapons).
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9G...AlSCoh8YHA
Its a long sword (usualy around 70-80 centimeters long) originating in Bronze Age but who was kept a long period (as shape and dimensions) in Iron Age as well
This type of sword might be spread all over by this proto Thraco-Dacians during last period of II milenium BC, when they started a series of invasions in Europe and even Asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples...hypothesis
"Michael Grant: "There was a gigantic series of migratory waves, extending all the way from the Danube valley to the plains of China."[56]"
"according to Finley:[57]
A large-scale movement of people is indicated ... the original centre of disturbance was in the Carpatho-Danubian region of Europe. ... It appears ... to have been ... pushing in different directions at different times."
http://www.novelguide.com/a/discover/ane...00120.html
"It has been argued that the wetland societies of the central Po Plain, the Alpine palafitte, and the terremare of the plain show evidence of contact with the Danubian-Carpathian region. Artifacts underlying this theory include antler horse bits and sword burials (as at Povegliano). What is certain is that the terremare of Emilia show a dramatic increase in settlement density, reaching levels of up to 1 site per 25 square kilometers"
Those swords buried there are the same Naue II type, originating in Danubian-Carpathian area
It is very possible that proto-Celtic (and Iranic as proto-Scythians or Sarmatians) peoples encounter or was hit by this wave of invasions or was dragged or pushed by them and adopted this type of swords from those invaders (or even mixed with them, as its possible in case of Masagetae or Tysagetae, and adopted some of their weapons).
Razvan A.
