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Marching Camps
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Quote:There are also things peculiar to camp design, such as clavicula gateways, which are generally thought to be Flavian, so camp series featuring these don't belong to the Severan campaigns.

Hi Mike Bishop,
....excuse me for jumping in here (and quite late so ...) ....
...while I have no problems asuming your statement as fully valid when it comes to Roman camps in Britain/Scotland/Wales I would not subscribe to that for continental roman camps.
There are at least 3 exceptions to that rule that I know of,-- all of them more or less firmly dated to Augustean times:
1) Neuss/Novaesium "Camp A" (the other subsequent camps here, named b-f, -- there are different nominations for the different "configurations" of camps visible in this place,
seem not to have used that.)
2) Haltern "Ostlager" (The other camps in that place also do not have that)
3) Rüthen-Kneblinghausen ( Two different "configurations" were found here, traditionally referenced to Domitian times for the use of the "clavicula" ---
forgive me, but but in THAT case I could find no further reference, except that the excavations from 2008 still put more riddles into that affair -- a lot of germanic findings, especially pottery, nearly no roman finds and not a trace of an earth-n-wood rampart behind the trench as stated in earlier papers )
For reference online :
http://www.roemische-garnison-novaesium....ktion.html (Sorry, in German only)
for all 3 examples.
2) and 3) are further referenced to in
Rudolf Aßkamp, Aufmarsch an der Lippe - Römische Militärlager im rechtsrheinischen Germanien from: 2000 Jahre Varusschlacht -- Imperium (>>pp 172-179, especially pics 1 and 2; Ostlager: p179. Kneblinghausen here is on the pics as augustean.(Sorry: In German only)
It seems that 1) and 2) have neither been marching camps nor multi-period "steady" camps.
Referring to the trouble dating Kneblinghausen:
http://www.archaeologie-online.de/magazi...haft-2706/
(Sorry, also in German)
I'd be glad someone came up with additional informations.
(Haven't found more references yet, my misspellings are adding up, I'd better go to sleep :roll: )
Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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Marching Camps - by AureliusFalco - 07-13-2011, 12:59 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by mcbishop - 07-15-2011, 01:51 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by AureliusFalco - 07-17-2011, 05:50 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by D B Campbell - 07-18-2011, 02:51 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by Simplex - 07-18-2011, 03:19 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by Nathan Ross - 07-18-2011, 09:48 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 07-18-2011, 10:48 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by D B Campbell - 07-18-2011, 02:48 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by mcbishop - 07-18-2011, 05:01 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by Simplex - 07-18-2011, 07:50 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by mcbishop - 07-18-2011, 07:56 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by Simplex - 07-18-2011, 08:35 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by PhilusEstilius - 07-19-2011, 03:36 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by AureliusFalco - 07-22-2011, 03:13 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by D B Campbell - 07-22-2011, 02:45 PM
Re: Marching Camps - by AureliusFalco - 07-23-2011, 12:45 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by D B Campbell - 07-23-2011, 03:20 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by Alexandr K - 07-24-2011, 09:29 AM
Re: Marching Camps - by D B Campbell - 07-24-2011, 09:04 PM

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