02-17-2011, 01:14 AM
Does he list sources for these shields somewhere? Looking at his 'Aetolian", I'd be hesitant to label any shield with a robust, domed central boss as a double-grip shield rather than single central grip. This statement: "Externally it had several marks and usually a metal hub that helped at the stage of repulsion (othismos) to break up the unity of the opposing faction." is unlikely.
The "Iphicratid" is fanciful, for we have no idea what that shield looked like. I do like the crossed straps in place of a porpax. Some peltae clearly show parallel straps pulled together and held in one hand. I have experimented with this set up and if the length is right, you can hold it together for a single handed grip, or slide your forearm through for a porpax-like effect. This may explain the images of Thracian peltasts on vases that show two "porpaxes" and an antilabe.
The "Iphicratid" is fanciful, for we have no idea what that shield looked like. I do like the crossed straps in place of a porpax. Some peltae clearly show parallel straps pulled together and held in one hand. I have experimented with this set up and if the length is right, you can hold it together for a single handed grip, or slide your forearm through for a porpax-like effect. This may explain the images of Thracian peltasts on vases that show two "porpaxes" and an antilabe.
Paul M. Bardunias
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