07-26-2007, 12:32 AM
......don't forget that even within the so-called 'free' greek cities there were factions, usually oligarchs such as the Alcmeonids in Athens, or the exiled Spartan king Demaratus who supported Persia for their own ends.
And let's not forget that the 'Hero' of the War against Xerxes, Themistocles himself, did not think it 'treachorous' to live out his life as a pensioner of the Persian Great King !! :lol:
I really don't think this debate has any meaning...... :roll: none of the real participants would have recognised the term as we see it, other than as propaganda mud to fling at opponents. :wink:
And let's not forget that the 'Hero' of the War against Xerxes, Themistocles himself, did not think it 'treachorous' to live out his life as a pensioner of the Persian Great King !! :lol:
I really don't think this debate has any meaning...... :roll: none of the real participants would have recognised the term as we see it, other than as propaganda mud to fling at opponents. :wink:
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
