04-01-2010, 08:48 PM
After Traian conquest of a part of Dacia, despite the continous fights of empire with so called "free Dacians", many dacians become members of Roman Army, and, some of them, emperors of Rome, quite long before germanic peoples to influence the army and political life of western part of the empire.
We have so Maximinus Thrax, first barbarian emperor of Rome ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_I_%28Thrax%29 )
<<Most likely he was of Thraco-Roman origin (believed so by Herodian in his writings), and the references to his "Gothic" ancestry might refer to a Thracian Getae origin (the two populations were often confused by later writers, most notably by Jordanes in his Getica), as suggested by the paragraphs describing how "he was singularly beloved by the Getae, moreover, as if he were one of themselves" and how he spoke "almost pure Thracian">>
Then is Regalianus ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regalianus )
He probably said it is from Decebalus family to bring on his side the Free Dacians too
There is a series of roman emperors believed of being from thraco/dacian-roman origin, at least partialy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thraco-Roman )
<<A number of Roman/East Roman emperors were Thraco-Romans: Galerius, Maximian, Maximinus Daia, Leo I, Aurelius Valerius Valens, Licinius, Constantine I the Great, Constantius III, Marcianus, Justin I, Justinian I, Justin II, Phocas>>
Many of those emperors was suported by the army to get the throne, and the army in eastern roman empire was formed in majority by thraco-dacians.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... lisII2.png
<<Page from the Notitia Dignitatum, a late Roman register of military commands, depicting shields of the magister militum praesentalis II. An analysis of East Roman army in 350-476 shows that the Danubian regions provided 54% of the total units. It is for this reason that Galerius "avowed himself the enemy of the Roman name and proposed that the empire should be called, not the Roman, but the Dacian empire".>>
Last phrase belong to Lactantius, in "De mortibus persecutorum"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Roman_army
This is an article about eastern roman army, and a quote from there:
<<An analysis of known origins of comitatenses in the period 350-476 shows that in the Eastern army, the Danubian regions provided 54% of the total sample, despite constituting just 2 of the 7 eastern dioceses (administrative divisions): Dacia and Thracia.>>
My opinion is, that before the germanic peoples (or other barbarians) to bring their influence in army and politic of (mostly) the western roman empire, in eastern part (or even in the empire as an all) dacians ruled from whitin, forming the majority of the army, and promoting emperors who even considered to change the name of the empire from Roman to Dacian one. As well this thraco-dacians assured the survival of the eastern part of the empire up to the begining of the medieval ages, avoiding the colapse like in west.
We have so Maximinus Thrax, first barbarian emperor of Rome ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_I_%28Thrax%29 )
<<Most likely he was of Thraco-Roman origin (believed so by Herodian in his writings), and the references to his "Gothic" ancestry might refer to a Thracian Getae origin (the two populations were often confused by later writers, most notably by Jordanes in his Getica), as suggested by the paragraphs describing how "he was singularly beloved by the Getae, moreover, as if he were one of themselves" and how he spoke "almost pure Thracian">>
Then is Regalianus ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regalianus )
He probably said it is from Decebalus family to bring on his side the Free Dacians too
There is a series of roman emperors believed of being from thraco/dacian-roman origin, at least partialy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thraco-Roman )
<<A number of Roman/East Roman emperors were Thraco-Romans: Galerius, Maximian, Maximinus Daia, Leo I, Aurelius Valerius Valens, Licinius, Constantine I the Great, Constantius III, Marcianus, Justin I, Justinian I, Justin II, Phocas>>
Many of those emperors was suported by the army to get the throne, and the army in eastern roman empire was formed in majority by thraco-dacians.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... lisII2.png
<<Page from the Notitia Dignitatum, a late Roman register of military commands, depicting shields of the magister militum praesentalis II. An analysis of East Roman army in 350-476 shows that the Danubian regions provided 54% of the total units. It is for this reason that Galerius "avowed himself the enemy of the Roman name and proposed that the empire should be called, not the Roman, but the Dacian empire".>>
Last phrase belong to Lactantius, in "De mortibus persecutorum"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Roman_army
This is an article about eastern roman army, and a quote from there:
<<An analysis of known origins of comitatenses in the period 350-476 shows that in the Eastern army, the Danubian regions provided 54% of the total sample, despite constituting just 2 of the 7 eastern dioceses (administrative divisions): Dacia and Thracia.>>
My opinion is, that before the germanic peoples (or other barbarians) to bring their influence in army and politic of (mostly) the western roman empire, in eastern part (or even in the empire as an all) dacians ruled from whitin, forming the majority of the army, and promoting emperors who even considered to change the name of the empire from Roman to Dacian one. As well this thraco-dacians assured the survival of the eastern part of the empire up to the begining of the medieval ages, avoiding the colapse like in west.
Razvan A.
