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Re: Bell cap how to
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Matt.

It becomes clear from a statement you have made in your previous post that you do not understand the porpose or the function of these bell-caps. Then where you mention the artifacts that you have not seen yet, it becomes clear that you did not take too much notice at all of the pictures put forward by Jurjen at the beginning of his topic.

In my opinion it becomes clear that you are not too familiar with the Vindolanda or the Trimontium horse chamfrons where this term has been used, I first of all gave the reference given by Carol van Driel Murry now I shall give the actual statement.

Quote. "The large studs and attachments were securly bell-capped at the back, presumably for the comfort of the horse. Several of these caps remain on chamfrons I and III, in place still holding the leather together ( fig 2d ). The metal of the bell-caps has caused extensive staining of the outer surface of III, and they are so firmly hammered on that the impressions are visible on the inner lining too." Unquote
I wonder now would you dispute this matter about her terminology or are you prepared to be more polite and contact this lady to do so.?


Then where you say that the reconstruction made by Jurjen has it's countersink at the same plane as the outer rim I would ask not just youself but all who have followed this topic to go back and look at it again please, for indeed it begins to appear that you are not just disputing the terminology and nomenclature you wish also to dispute any other technical discussion whatever.

Then also where you say you are tiring of this so called non- debate you should please let it go and allow Jurjen to have time to carry on with his "How to" instead of him having to waste his time.
Brian Stobbs
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Re: Bell cap how to - by Doc - 11-21-2009, 04:00 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 11-23-2009, 04:06 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 11-24-2009, 12:31 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by ARudling - 11-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-24-2009, 08:35 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 11-24-2009, 08:50 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by hephestus - 11-24-2009, 11:01 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-24-2009, 09:30 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 11-26-2009, 12:11 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-26-2009, 10:49 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Doc - 11-26-2009, 03:53 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-26-2009, 07:57 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 11-26-2009, 08:31 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 11-26-2009, 08:41 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-26-2009, 10:21 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-26-2009, 11:40 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Doc - 11-27-2009, 12:44 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-27-2009, 01:04 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 11-27-2009, 01:10 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-27-2009, 01:11 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by L_CORNELIUS_CETHEGUS - 11-27-2009, 03:09 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-27-2009, 04:07 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 11-27-2009, 04:44 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 11-27-2009, 05:02 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by L_CORNELIUS_CETHEGUS - 11-27-2009, 05:18 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-27-2009, 09:01 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Doc - 11-28-2009, 01:22 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-28-2009, 11:22 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-28-2009, 12:57 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by M. Demetrius - 11-28-2009, 05:27 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Doc - 11-28-2009, 05:33 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by M. Demetrius - 11-28-2009, 05:41 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-28-2009, 05:48 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by M. Demetrius - 11-28-2009, 06:10 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 11-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 11-28-2009, 06:36 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-28-2009, 06:43 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-28-2009, 06:57 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by M. Demetrius - 11-28-2009, 07:23 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 11-28-2009, 07:31 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 11-29-2009, 03:09 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-29-2009, 01:49 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 11-29-2009, 11:22 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-30-2009, 03:50 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 11-30-2009, 07:24 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 11-30-2009, 09:01 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by M. Demetrius - 11-30-2009, 11:44 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-01-2009, 12:10 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-01-2009, 01:14 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by caiusbeerquitius - 12-01-2009, 01:53 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-01-2009, 01:57 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-01-2009, 02:25 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-01-2009, 04:15 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Matt Lukes - 12-01-2009, 04:27 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-01-2009, 05:15 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-01-2009, 05:41 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-01-2009, 09:06 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Tarbicus - 12-06-2009, 06:05 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-06-2009, 07:05 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Tarbicus - 12-06-2009, 07:24 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-06-2009, 07:57 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Tarbicus - 12-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-07-2009, 01:26 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-07-2009, 02:15 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by M. Demetrius - 12-07-2009, 02:26 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Tarbicus - 12-07-2009, 04:16 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-07-2009, 08:33 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-07-2009, 08:47 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-07-2009, 10:58 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-08-2009, 08:52 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-08-2009, 09:54 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-09-2009, 07:55 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-09-2009, 12:45 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-09-2009, 07:18 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-09-2009, 09:36 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-09-2009, 11:07 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-10-2009, 05:08 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-10-2009, 05:10 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-10-2009, 08:05 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-10-2009, 09:50 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-10-2009, 11:08 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-10-2009, 11:29 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by caiusbeerquitius - 12-10-2009, 12:12 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-10-2009, 03:50 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-10-2009, 07:36 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by caiusbeerquitius - 12-10-2009, 08:14 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-10-2009, 09:24 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-10-2009, 09:29 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-10-2009, 10:03 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-10-2009, 11:56 PM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-11-2009, 08:38 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by PhilusEstilius - 12-11-2009, 11:46 AM
Re: Bell cap how to - by Magnus - 12-11-2009, 06:19 PM
Re: Re: Bell cap how to - by Jvrjenivs - 12-11-2009, 09:19 PM

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