12-15-2009, 04:17 AM
Quote:As to lines across wrists, these appear on many sculptures/ friezes, because wrists are thin and easily crack, not to mention that sculpture is often 'vandalised' by having protruding bits - hands, faces, heads - hacked off and these items subsequently being 'restored'. Like Giannis, I am inclined to believe it is more likely a short sleeve - see also the similar stele I posted.
I think in this case it requires a second opinion based on a closer examination. I am inclined to follow Hatzopoulos and Juhel in this matter for now, though, as it seems to me to be a raised band rather than a crack in the picture.
Quote:....I'm not at all sure you are correct in this. Depictions, of course, are few. There are some reliefs of Greek cavalry carrying 'aspides' from Thespiae in Boeotia ( referred to in Duncan Head's AMPW), and Tarantines of course, but AFIK all known depictions of shielded Makedonian/Antigonid cavalry show the Celtic spined variety. Have you come across specific examples of Makedonian cavalry with 'aspides'..
A sarcophagus from Kilkis depicting an Antigonid cavalryman and his equipment:
http://antiquemilitaryhistory.com/images/kilkiscist.JPG
In addition, we have dozens of representations of Hellenistic cavalrymen carrying aspides from just about all regions of the Hellenistic world outside of Macedonia, and so there is little reason to think that the Macedonians for some reason didn't carry them.
Quote:Ruben wrote:
Quote:According to Liampi, the earliest issue in Illyria of coinage featuring the Macedonian shield dates to after 188 BC (from Lychnidus), so they all postdate the 3rd c. BC....I think Liampi must be wrong then! My source for those remarks was "Ancient Illyria: an archaeological exploration" by Sir Arthur Evans and Bejtullah D. Destani ( available on Google Books ) - there is a whole section on Illyrian numismatics.
Liampi's numismatical examinations are very good, and based on up-to-date evidence. By contrast, "Ancient Illyria" is a reprint of works that are over a century old (originally printed in 1885 and 1886)! I'm afraid in this matter I'm going to have to go with Liampi.
Ruben
He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
