12-15-2009, 03:08 AM
Quote:Well, the crescent design on coins such as those of the town of Skodra appear from the late 3 C BC, to be precise around the time of Philip V of Makedon dominated the place ( 211-197 BC), and when the local King Genthius took over, the Macedonian crescent designs, and also apparently, 'sunburst' designs continued for a while, before Genthius replaced them with local designs showing galleys, and himself wearing a 'Kausia', like the Thracian....
You are almost certainly quite right, then, that these are copies of Macedonian shield designs on coins - emblems of Macedonian power .......so much for wild guesswork !!roll:
...which leaves the stone relief from Bausch, which I can't track down or date, though it will likely be the same period.....
According to Liampi, the earliest issue in Illyria of coinage featuring the Macedonian shield dates to after 188 BC (from Lychnidus), so they all postdate the 3rd c. BC.
However, I actually have to adjust my statement.... There are actual examples of shields dating to the 4th c. BC which I totally forgot about. An actual example of an almost perfectly-preserved bronze facing of a Macedonian shield from the necropolis at Apollonia dates to the late 4th or early 3rd c. BC, and a stele from that same city dating to the late 4th c. BC also depicts a Macedonian shield. Apollonia had a large Greek population, and so it's difficult to say whether these are actually Illyrian or not. However, this is still significantly later than the early representations of Macedonian shields from Macedonia. Nonetheless, it can be shown that by the early 2nd c. BC Illyrians proper certainly did use the Macedonian shield, since there are representations of Illyrian warriors carrying them on belt plates from burials from Gostilj and Selca e Poshteme.
Ruben
He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
