The Votadini exodus to Wales

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It's worth noting that some kinds of dragons, such as the Germanic worm/wyrm/wurm, derive from the serpent and not from the larger Middle Eastern reptiles.

Your correct about different origins of the word for Worm but if we looked for the one of the best known Gemanic Worm stories Siegfried/Sigurd this is likely to date from the Roman period not before. Some have even said that he served in the Roman army.

It may have a earlier truth behind of some sort, it but these things change so many times through history that they become lost in the mists of time.

Hi John,

I wasn't suggesting otherwise, just noting the differing origins for the differing dragons. The Worm (wingless and legless) could have been the Sarmatian type, as opposed to, say, the Wyvern (wings and two legs) or Heraldic (wings and four legs as on the Welsh flag) and those winged ones of the Middle East. Of course the Greek Hydra was also wingless.

Mak