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Cataphracti and Clibanarii
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Not to forget, the Pahlavi word griw-pan means also warrior and given the feudal and caste structure of the Iranian states as the Arsacid Parthians and Persian Sassanids were it was a nomenclature for a member of the warrior caste.

However, I believe, when the Roman soldiers heard that name and encountered those heavy-armored knights in the heat of Mesopotamia the first time they changed it in a dark-humoured mood to the known clibinarius / ovenman. Military slang at its best. :wink:

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I have ever thought of the Roman-made distinction between Cataphract an Clibinarius as following:

Cataphract- rider is armoured, sometimes equipped with a shield, horse is either not armoured or only lightly protected (as a front armour).

Clibinarius- rider is heavy till very heavy armoured, shield is not neccessary, horse is completely protected by some types of armour (maybe a composite form of metal and felt armour).
Gäiten
a.k.a.: Andreas R.
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Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Conal - 07-17-2008, 03:48 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Carlton Bach - 07-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 07-18-2008, 10:15 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Conal - 07-18-2008, 10:50 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Conal - 07-18-2008, 10:57 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 07-18-2008, 02:42 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Aryaman2 - 07-18-2008, 02:56 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Conal - 07-18-2008, 03:00 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 07-18-2008, 06:45 PM
I think its idiom. - by Marcus_Ulpius_Trajanus - 07-20-2008, 03:57 AM
Cataphractarii and Clibanarii - by Paullus Scipio - 07-20-2008, 06:11 AM
Re: Cataphractarii and Clibanarii - by MeinPanzer - 07-21-2008, 03:51 AM
Clibanarii and Cataphractarii - by Paullus Scipio - 07-21-2008, 05:48 AM
Re: Clibanarii and Cataphractarii - by MeinPanzer - 07-21-2008, 06:28 AM
Re: I think its idiom. - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 07-21-2008, 06:49 AM
Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Paullus Scipio - 07-21-2008, 07:39 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Conal - 07-21-2008, 08:49 AM
Re: I think its idiom. - by Robert Vermaat - 07-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Alanus - 07-22-2008, 05:02 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by MeinPanzer - 07-22-2008, 05:03 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Alanus - 07-22-2008, 05:22 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 07-22-2008, 08:19 AM
Cataphracts and Clibanari - by Paullus Scipio - 07-22-2008, 10:46 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Urselius - 07-25-2008, 12:17 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Urselius - 07-28-2008, 11:28 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by M.P. - 03-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Urselius - 03-08-2009, 08:41 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by M.P. - 03-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 03-09-2009, 10:48 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Urselius - 03-09-2009, 02:04 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 03-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Gäiten - 03-09-2009, 02:53 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Urselius - 03-09-2009, 03:05 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 03-09-2009, 03:36 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by John Conyard - 03-10-2009, 10:20 AM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by M.P. - 03-10-2009, 04:33 PM
Re: Cataphracti and Clibanarii - by Gregg - 03-10-2009, 10:45 PM

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