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Late-Roman Scuta
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I notice that the shield designs on that Egyptian wood carving appear much the same as those on the famous ivory carving of the provincial official and his guards, from the same place and period - are the two pieces connected? The design is commonly identified as that of the Fifth Macedonica Legion from the N.D.<br>
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I happened to take a look at Osprey's much-maligned 'Late Roman Infantryman' book today, and found some interesting stuff. Granted, the colour plates are quite woefully inaccurate in places, and the whole thing a bit of a grab-bag, but there are some issues raised in it which have come up on this board (as no doubt several of you know very well, but I didn't - they actually have a stab at the infamous 'enigma helmet/Frankhelm' thing!). Anyway, there's a reconstruction drawing of a shield - round, IIRC - with an offset handgrip on the back. I'd need to check again, but I think the caption states that this is based on finds from the British Museum. I'm not sure whether they mean the handgrip is based on anything, or just the shield itself... This handgrip does look very like that on the Arch of Constantine 'marching army' frieze, which I'd previously considered to be a deep dished shield in bad perspective.<br>
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Incidentally, the same book claims that the troops on the Arch of Galerius are infantry indeed - one's holding a horse, but that, so the author claims, doesn't make him a cavalryman. Matter of opinion, I suspect! <p></p><i></i>
Nathan Ross
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Late-Roman Scuta - by Theodosius the Great - 08-24-2004, 08:14 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 08-24-2004, 08:35 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 08-24-2004, 10:42 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 08-24-2004, 01:10 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 08-24-2004, 02:41 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Theodosius the Great - 08-24-2004, 05:56 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 08-25-2004, 04:53 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 08-25-2004, 06:41 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Theodosius the Great - 08-25-2004, 07:51 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 08-25-2004, 09:28 AM
Much later - by Theodosius the Great - 08-25-2004, 10:18 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 08-25-2004, 10:21 AM
numbers - by Theodosius the Great - 08-25-2004, 10:52 AM
Re: numbers - by Anonymous - 08-25-2004, 10:56 AM
Re: numbers - by aitor iriarte - 08-25-2004, 03:49 PM
authors - by Theodosius the Great - 08-25-2004, 08:32 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 08-26-2004, 05:46 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 08-26-2004, 05:52 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 08-26-2004, 06:15 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 08-26-2004, 06:24 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 08-26-2004, 11:21 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 08-27-2004, 05:36 AM
chi-ro - by Theodosius the Great - 08-27-2004, 06:30 AM
Re: chi-ro - by Robert Vermaat - 08-27-2004, 07:43 AM
Re: chi-ro - by Theodosius the Great - 08-27-2004, 08:26 AM
Re: chi-ro - by Uwe Bahr - 08-27-2004, 10:35 AM
Re: chi-ro - by Robert Vermaat - 08-27-2004, 11:28 AM
Re: chi-ro - by Robert Vermaat - 08-27-2004, 04:52 PM
Re: chi-ro - by Uwe Bahr - 08-27-2004, 04:55 PM
Re: chi-ro - by Theodosius the Great - 08-27-2004, 09:16 PM
Re: chi-ro - by Uwe Bahr - 08-28-2004, 03:54 AM
picture - by Theodosius the Great - 08-29-2004, 08:05 AM
Re: picture - by John M McDermott - 09-03-2004, 08:48 PM
Re: picture - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-08-2004, 01:54 AM
Re: picture - by aitor iriarte - 09-08-2004, 04:39 AM
Re: picture - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-08-2004, 03:07 PM
Re: picture - by Robert Vermaat - 09-09-2004, 08:14 AM
Re: dished shields - by Anonymous - 09-09-2004, 04:06 PM
Re: dished shields - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-09-2004, 06:57 PM
Re: dished shields - by Anonymous - 09-10-2004, 05:30 AM
Re: dished shields - by Robert Vermaat - 09-10-2004, 01:03 PM
Re: dished shields - by Anonymous - 09-10-2004, 04:41 PM
Re: dished shields - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-10-2004, 05:25 PM
Re: dished shields - by Anonymous - 09-11-2004, 02:16 AM
Spear and shield - by Theodosius the Great - 09-15-2004, 07:45 AM
Re: Spear and shield - by aitor iriarte - 09-15-2004, 09:05 AM
Re: Spear and shield - by Crispvs - 09-15-2004, 07:15 PM
spear - by Theodosius the Great - 09-15-2004, 09:32 PM
Re: spear - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-16-2004, 01:01 AM
Re: spear - by aitor iriarte - 09-16-2004, 04:30 AM
Re: dished shields - by Robert Vermaat - 09-16-2004, 07:42 AM
Re: spear - by Robert Vermaat - 09-16-2004, 07:45 AM
Spears / Scuta - by Theodosius the Great - 09-16-2004, 10:00 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-17-2004, 05:47 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Nathan Ross - 09-17-2004, 07:49 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Theodosius the Great - 09-17-2004, 08:26 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Anonymous - 09-17-2004, 10:52 AM
handle or straps - by Goffredo - 09-17-2004, 11:30 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-17-2004, 12:19 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-17-2004, 12:23 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-18-2004, 01:23 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-18-2004, 06:06 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-18-2004, 06:54 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-20-2004, 12:18 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-20-2004, 09:33 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-21-2004, 09:58 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-21-2004, 10:26 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-22-2004, 02:51 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 09-22-2004, 04:49 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-22-2004, 04:56 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-22-2004, 04:59 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 09-22-2004, 05:27 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-22-2004, 05:49 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-22-2004, 05:50 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 09-22-2004, 07:58 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 09-22-2004, 08:23 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 09-22-2004, 09:24 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 09-22-2004, 09:42 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-22-2004, 01:08 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-22-2004, 03:45 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-22-2004, 09:57 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Nathan Ross - 09-22-2004, 10:25 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 09-23-2004, 01:07 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 09-29-2004, 02:24 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Crispvs - 10-01-2004, 04:34 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-03-2004, 12:59 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-03-2004, 07:50 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-03-2004, 10:42 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-03-2004, 05:38 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Anonymous - 10-03-2004, 06:57 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-03-2004, 10:22 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-04-2004, 09:06 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-06-2004, 04:08 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-06-2004, 04:23 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-06-2004, 05:42 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-06-2004, 05:47 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-08-2004, 07:33 AM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-08-2004, 02:01 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-08-2004, 02:18 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by caiusbeerquitius - 10-11-2004, 01:37 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-11-2004, 05:43 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-11-2004, 06:46 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Nathan Ross - 10-11-2004, 07:16 PM
Re: Spears / Scuta - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 10-11-2004, 10:10 PM
Re: Emblem of V Macedonica - by Uwe Bahr - 10-12-2004, 05:15 AM
Re: Emblem of V Macedonica - by Flavius Promotus - 10-16-2004, 02:10 PM
Re: Emblem of V Macedonica - by Flavius Promotus - 10-16-2004, 02:24 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by FAVENTIANVS - 10-28-2004, 06:46 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by FAVENTIANVS - 10-28-2004, 06:57 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Crispvs - 10-28-2004, 07:46 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-29-2004, 01:15 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-29-2004, 02:34 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by FAVENTIANVS - 10-29-2004, 05:45 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 10-29-2004, 06:33 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Crispvs - 10-29-2004, 11:30 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-30-2004, 07:48 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by FAVENTIANVS - 10-30-2004, 12:43 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 10-30-2004, 03:06 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by FAVENTIANVS - 11-02-2004, 02:33 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Uwe Bahr - 11-19-2004, 05:46 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Robert Vermaat - 11-19-2004, 07:15 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by aitor iriarte - 11-19-2004, 04:21 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 11-21-2004, 01:35 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 11-21-2004, 09:59 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 11-22-2004, 01:17 AM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 11-23-2004, 11:29 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 11-23-2004, 11:36 PM
Re: Late-Roman Scuta - by Anonymous - 11-24-2004, 01:36 PM

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