05-07-2008, 12:12 PM
Quote:.... ....without wishing to give offence, or venture into modern politics, the analogy I had in mind was not that the CIA ( Krypteia) killed/terrorised U.S citizens ( Homioi) but rather the poor (helots) in neighbouring Central/South America (messenia)......my apologies if that analogy is distasteful.
It would be difficult to diminish my esteeem for the CIA (read that as you may :wink: ). But your clarification goes to my point. Whether its nuns in Central America or Messenian helots, this type of terror is used to keep conquored alien populations down. Controlling one's own citizens, or their property (slaves) must follow more subtle means, usually invoking the threat of an outside force (with the caveat that the definition of citizen is infinitely malleable.)
Paul M. Bardunias
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A Spartan, being asked a question, answered "No." And when the questioner said, "You lie," the Spartan said, "You see, then, that it is stupid of you to ask questions to which you already know the answer!"
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A Spartan, being asked a question, answered "No." And when the questioner said, "You lie," the Spartan said, "You see, then, that it is stupid of you to ask questions to which you already know the answer!"