Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century

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Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century

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03-04-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:Hi Robert,

I see what you're saying but it was a political fiction at best. OK, from a legalistic point of view, sure, it looks good on paper. But the 'foederates' were de facto independent kingdoms and usually behaved accordingly, offering only lip service to express their loyalty to Rome.

Well personally I've been convinced by Guy Halsall's recent Barbarian Migrations book and similar that pretty much all the "foederates" were operating within the imperial political system albeit that the system was fragmenting on a regional basis due to tensions in the system itself highlighted by weak and/or child rulers.

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Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Razor - 02-20-2008, 11:10 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 02-20-2008, 11:23 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by garrelt - 02-20-2008, 11:27 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Nicholas Gaukroger - 02-20-2008, 12:40 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-22-2008, 12:43 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 02-22-2008, 09:36 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-24-2008, 03:17 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Ioannes Vandalicus - 02-24-2008, 03:34 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-25-2008, 04:37 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 02-25-2008, 02:30 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 02-25-2008, 06:32 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Razor - 02-25-2008, 07:43 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by L C Cinna - 02-25-2008, 07:58 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-26-2008, 12:40 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 02-26-2008, 10:04 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-26-2008, 10:57 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 02-26-2008, 12:18 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Ioannes Vandalicus - 02-26-2008, 01:06 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-26-2008, 01:12 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-26-2008, 11:30 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 02-27-2008, 11:16 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 02-27-2008, 02:20 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 02-27-2008, 10:32 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 02-28-2008, 08:24 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by aitor iriarte - 02-28-2008, 08:41 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 02-28-2008, 09:27 AM

Defences in the 5C AD - Aetius and Africa - by Paullus Scipio - 02-28-2008, 10:00 PM

Re: Defences in the 5C AD - Aetius and Africa - by taira1180 - 02-29-2008, 09:27 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-01-2008, 02:26 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by sonic - 03-01-2008, 07:54 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Nicholas Gaukroger - 03-01-2008, 08:27 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-01-2008, 08:29 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-01-2008, 02:24 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-02-2008, 06:57 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by sonic - 03-02-2008, 09:20 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-02-2008, 11:19 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Syagrius_Rex_Romanorum - 03-02-2008, 10:42 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-03-2008, 05:24 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-03-2008, 08:15 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-03-2008, 08:23 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-03-2008, 08:58 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by sonic - 03-03-2008, 05:49 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Agraes - 03-03-2008, 06:49 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-04-2008, 08:51 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 03-04-2008, 10:14 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Eleatic Guest - 03-04-2008, 12:25 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Nicholas Gaukroger - 03-04-2008, 12:52 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-04-2008, 01:37 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Eleatic Guest - 03-04-2008, 02:19 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-04-2008, 03:26 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by sonic - 03-04-2008, 04:55 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-04-2008, 09:09 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-06-2008, 11:45 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 03-06-2008, 01:40 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Nicholas Gaukroger - 03-06-2008, 03:30 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by sonic - 03-06-2008, 04:51 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-07-2008, 06:04 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by taira1180 - 03-07-2008, 11:05 AM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by sonic - 03-07-2008, 01:04 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Theodosius the Great - 03-07-2008, 10:54 PM

Re: Defences of the western Roman empire in 5th century - by Robert Vermaat - 03-08-2008, 12:16 AM

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