04-07-2004, 07:30 PM
Dan wrote:Quote:</em></strong><hr>First, the finding of large Roman sites like this illustrates the potential for many other large sites still undiscovered, so we need not decide Kalkriese "must" be the Varus battlefield simply because Augustan military objects and coins were found there.<hr><br>
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In the first case Dan is right. Actually we are looking for around a dozent battle sites and a unknown number of marching camp of 9. BC to 16 AD in Westphalia and Lower Saxony alone. But one should not forget that Kalkriese is the first ancient battle field in this area and it was detected because of the density of augustan finds.<br>
Thinking of the historical point of view (meaning the roman view) there was only one battle the germanic warriors were the possesors of the field after the battle (not so at Idistaviso, Pontes longi, Battle of the angrivarian wall etc.). Apart from following manipulation of the field by germanics and later romans, it is thinkable that the amount of lost roman material (archeological finds) is greater and therefore the density of finds.<br>
That, of course, is the theory. The following manipulation of any archeological site is left to imagination. What a shredyard of military equipment and other stuff means to german inhabitants in the neighbourhood means is self explanatory.<br>
The fact that at Hedemünden, the site of the new camp, the finds were sometimes nearly lying on the soil and the fact that this camp wasn´t found much earlier may have their reason because of the wooden and uncultivated nature of the area which it is still today and because that in those times it may have been the desolate border area of the two germanic tribes the chatti and the charusci. That could mean less manipulation after the romans left the camp area.<br>
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ghandi <p>CHASUARI - Germanic Warriors of 1st ct AD.<br>
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In the first case Dan is right. Actually we are looking for around a dozent battle sites and a unknown number of marching camp of 9. BC to 16 AD in Westphalia and Lower Saxony alone. But one should not forget that Kalkriese is the first ancient battle field in this area and it was detected because of the density of augustan finds.<br>
Thinking of the historical point of view (meaning the roman view) there was only one battle the germanic warriors were the possesors of the field after the battle (not so at Idistaviso, Pontes longi, Battle of the angrivarian wall etc.). Apart from following manipulation of the field by germanics and later romans, it is thinkable that the amount of lost roman material (archeological finds) is greater and therefore the density of finds.<br>
That, of course, is the theory. The following manipulation of any archeological site is left to imagination. What a shredyard of military equipment and other stuff means to german inhabitants in the neighbourhood means is self explanatory.<br>
The fact that at Hedemünden, the site of the new camp, the finds were sometimes nearly lying on the soil and the fact that this camp wasn´t found much earlier may have their reason because of the wooden and uncultivated nature of the area which it is still today and because that in those times it may have been the desolate border area of the two germanic tribes the chatti and the charusci. That could mean less manipulation after the romans left the camp area.<br>
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ghandi <p>CHASUARI - Germanic Warriors of 1st ct AD.<br>
www.chasuari.de </p><i></i>
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