08-24-2003, 10:56 PM
Wagnijo, I didn't really read your response, sorry. I am ending this discussion. However, I will leave you with a paragraph from Tacitus:<br>
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<em>Upon any recess from war, they do not much attend the chase. Much more of their time they pass in indolence, resigned to sleep and repasts. All the most brave, all the most warlike, apply to nothing at all; but to their wives, to the ancient men, and to every the most impotent domestic, trust all the care of their house, and of their lands and possessions. They themselves loiter. Such is the amazing diversity of their nature, that in the same men is found so much delight in sloth, with so much enmity to tranquillity and repose. The communities are wont, of their own accord and man by man, to bestow upon their Princes a certain number of beasts, or a certain portion of grain; a contribution which passes indeed for a mark of reverence and honour, but serves also to supply their necessities. They chiefly rejoice in the gifts which come from the bordering countries, such as are sent not only by particulars but in the name of the State; curious horses, splendid armour, rich harness, with collars of silver and gold. Now too they have learnt, what we have taught them, to receive money.</em><br>
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Taken from this site, on Germania by Tacitus:<br>
www.earth-history.com/Rom...manica.htm They don't sound very tough do they?<br>
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And also on this thread, dating back to the legion vs the phalanx:<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>On the other hand, the Romans relied on tactical flexibility and skilled swordsmanship.<hr><br>
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From an artical written by by khurram wadiwalla, M.A. (War Stud.)<br>
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Far too often I've seen debate on this forum by one or two individuals intent on creating flammatory discussions by posing questions degrading either the Roman Army, or attempting to glorify her enemies. I am sure there are some forums out there that cater to Rome's enemies. Why not try there? Otherwise, opinion and perception becomes intermeshed with ego, creating an insurmountable barrier to these discussions. And I am quite sick of arguing with people's egos.<br>
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<p>Magnus/Matt<br>
Legio XXX "Ulpia Victrix" Coh I<br>
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"I know I was born, and I know that I'll die. But the in between is mine."<br>
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<em>Upon any recess from war, they do not much attend the chase. Much more of their time they pass in indolence, resigned to sleep and repasts. All the most brave, all the most warlike, apply to nothing at all; but to their wives, to the ancient men, and to every the most impotent domestic, trust all the care of their house, and of their lands and possessions. They themselves loiter. Such is the amazing diversity of their nature, that in the same men is found so much delight in sloth, with so much enmity to tranquillity and repose. The communities are wont, of their own accord and man by man, to bestow upon their Princes a certain number of beasts, or a certain portion of grain; a contribution which passes indeed for a mark of reverence and honour, but serves also to supply their necessities. They chiefly rejoice in the gifts which come from the bordering countries, such as are sent not only by particulars but in the name of the State; curious horses, splendid armour, rich harness, with collars of silver and gold. Now too they have learnt, what we have taught them, to receive money.</em><br>
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Taken from this site, on Germania by Tacitus:<br>
www.earth-history.com/Rom...manica.htm They don't sound very tough do they?<br>
<br>
And also on this thread, dating back to the legion vs the phalanx:<br>
<br>
Quote:</em></strong><hr>On the other hand, the Romans relied on tactical flexibility and skilled swordsmanship.<hr><br>
<br>
From an artical written by by khurram wadiwalla, M.A. (War Stud.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Far too often I've seen debate on this forum by one or two individuals intent on creating flammatory discussions by posing questions degrading either the Roman Army, or attempting to glorify her enemies. I am sure there are some forums out there that cater to Rome's enemies. Why not try there? Otherwise, opinion and perception becomes intermeshed with ego, creating an insurmountable barrier to these discussions. And I am quite sick of arguing with people's egos.<br>
<br>
<p>Magnus/Matt<br>
Legio XXX "Ulpia Victrix" Coh I<br>
<br>
"I know I was born, and I know that I'll die. But the in between is mine."<br>
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