03-09-2004, 08:00 AM
Dan,<br>
I have no doubt that the upper hole is for an anchoring stud, but maybe one wider than the actual pole was, judging from the photos.<br>
So, the item at RGZM is not the original one? Do you now where is it kept? Thanks for the offer, I feel that I've got never enough pics of an object when I want to have a replica made!<br>
I agree totally with you about a 'beard' and I'm wondering about some kind of tongue (maybe too much... )<br>
I wouldn't give much importance to the colour on the miniature, it could wll be arbitrary to some extent. Anyway, don't you see a striking resemblance of the head with that well-known Scottish 'carnyx' head?<br>
I'd like to know which is the exact reference for that infantry draco. Notwithstanding, I feel that it was mainly a cavalry standard... BTW, have you realized the way it is carried by the Late Carolingian standard-bearer? I'd dare to say that the lower tip of the pole is caught between his calf and the saddle!<br>
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Robert,<br>
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Didn't you know about this miniature? It appears on Coulston's paper! The reference is Psalterium Aureum (St. Gall. Stift-Bib. 22) foll 140 ? (Coulston gives a different foll. number!) The miniature illustrates the Psalm 59. Yes, a psalterium is a codex containing the Psalms, and the text below is part of the nr 59.<br>
The estimated date is before AD 883, Charles the Bald.<br>
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BTW, Have you received the handgrip pics I sent?<br>
<br>
Aitor<br>
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I have no doubt that the upper hole is for an anchoring stud, but maybe one wider than the actual pole was, judging from the photos.<br>
So, the item at RGZM is not the original one? Do you now where is it kept? Thanks for the offer, I feel that I've got never enough pics of an object when I want to have a replica made!<br>
I agree totally with you about a 'beard' and I'm wondering about some kind of tongue (maybe too much... )<br>
I wouldn't give much importance to the colour on the miniature, it could wll be arbitrary to some extent. Anyway, don't you see a striking resemblance of the head with that well-known Scottish 'carnyx' head?<br>
I'd like to know which is the exact reference for that infantry draco. Notwithstanding, I feel that it was mainly a cavalry standard... BTW, have you realized the way it is carried by the Late Carolingian standard-bearer? I'd dare to say that the lower tip of the pole is caught between his calf and the saddle!<br>
<br>
Robert,<br>
<br>
Didn't you know about this miniature? It appears on Coulston's paper! The reference is Psalterium Aureum (St. Gall. Stift-Bib. 22) foll 140 ? (Coulston gives a different foll. number!) The miniature illustrates the Psalm 59. Yes, a psalterium is a codex containing the Psalms, and the text below is part of the nr 59.<br>
The estimated date is before AD 883, Charles the Bald.<br>
<br>
BTW, Have you received the handgrip pics I sent?<br>
<br>
Aitor<br>
<p></p><i></i>
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