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Spartan hype?
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the Athenians won on their wing


I am chronically hard on the Athenians- it's a Spartan thing. They might have been expected to win on their wing since the thebans so weighted the left, but I do wonder if there was more expected of them. Whatever it was, the "suprise" attack of the thebans and the inability of the right to hold long negated it.

Doubt if you will, and perhaps accuse Xenophon ( an Athenian) of bias - though if anything he was pro-spartan/pro-Agesilaus, but Epaminondas' surprise attack could not have 'negated' the Athenian victory on their wing - after all, both sides raised a trophy claiming victory, both sides requested their dead under truce etc .
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)

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Spartan hype? - by hoplite07 - 08-12-2007, 05:29 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-12-2007, 05:52 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by hoplite07 - 08-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Spartan Hype? - by Paullus Scipio - 08-13-2007, 03:59 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Zenodoros - 08-13-2007, 05:35 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Aetius Helvius Merula - 08-13-2007, 06:43 AM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-13-2007, 07:00 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by geala - 08-13-2007, 07:31 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-13-2007, 04:06 PM
Spartan hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-13-2007, 08:45 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by qcarr - 08-13-2007, 09:23 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-13-2007, 11:32 PM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-14-2007, 03:06 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-14-2007, 03:57 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Paullus Scipio - 08-14-2007, 11:32 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-15-2007, 12:53 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Paullus Scipio - 08-15-2007, 02:56 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by F. Antili Oregensis - 08-15-2007, 04:58 AM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-15-2007, 06:01 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-15-2007, 06:03 AM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-15-2007, 07:37 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by geala - 08-15-2007, 12:06 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-15-2007, 04:11 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-15-2007, 04:22 PM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-15-2007, 11:17 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Paullus Scipio - 08-16-2007, 04:59 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Paullus Scipio - 08-17-2007, 12:10 AM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-17-2007, 02:27 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-17-2007, 02:43 AM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-17-2007, 06:17 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-17-2007, 03:31 PM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by Idomeneas - 08-18-2007, 12:45 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-18-2007, 02:25 AM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-18-2007, 03:49 AM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-18-2007, 02:53 PM
Spartan Hype - by Paullus Scipio - 08-18-2007, 08:55 PM
Re: Spartan hype? - by PMBardunias - 08-19-2007, 04:28 AM

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